#1 HS team vs. Top club teams

by **GeorgiaLacrosse** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:10 am

How do you think the top nationally ranked high school team would do against the top club team in the nation?

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by **TrainerDan** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:17 am

The high school team would lose, and lose bad.

by **AlumniLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:22 am

how many times have we been over this in the past? i feel like this should be regulated so as not to turn this board into the IL message board...

by **Cousin17** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:21 am

The best High School team would get smoked by the top USLIA teams but they would compete against and probably beat many USLIA B-Division teams.

by **AlumniLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:29 am

Cousin17 wrote:The best High School team would get smoked by the top USLIA teams but they would compete against and probably beat many USLIA B-Division teams.

i'm sorry, but there is no way a Div. B team would hold up to a Landon, Prep, St. Paul's, West Genny, Delbarton, Lawrenceville, etc. too much talent and experience that would over power the limited talent and experience available in Div. B.

secondly, i'm not even sure a top 15-and up Div. A team could hang with the teams mentioned above. let's face it, these are the top hs programs in the country that are randomly pulled from to get the best talent for D.I., that are extremely well coached and have been practically playing together since the pwee lacrosse leagues. they breed these kids up north to put them into the pipeline towards one of those schools mentioned above.

i'm done with this arguement. we shouldn't even be comparing ourselves to that competition. it's irrelevant in some cases. let's chat about comparing our selves to D I-III competition.

by **CSUalum32** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:22 pm

I agree, i dont think that a top D-B team could play with the top high school teams in the country, i think top D-A teams could take care of themselves though.

as far as competing with DI-III schools, this is like beating a dead horse. there are many other threads that discuss this topic.

by **KerrLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:55 pm

Landon has THIRTEEN D-I recruits on their roster this year. Kids who dont even start are going to D-I schools. Not to mention the Juniors and maybe even Sophomores on that team. I'm sure some high school teams could take the majority of MDIA teams, it just all depends on what team shows up on each side.

by **MinesGoallie45** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:06 pm

The problem with a HS team playing even a bottom Div B team....infact it might even be more dangerous against a bottom Div B team, is that alot of those kids could be really seriously hurt. College ball is alot more intense at any level then HS ball, and we are alot bigger. A sophmore in HS getting hit by a Senior in college 99% of the time results in the same way, and I know I wouldnt want that on my conscience.

by **Cousin17** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:18 pm

You guys are right. This dicussion is old and the last time I checked none of the top High School teams have any USLIA-B division teams on their schedule this year. Time for a new topic...

by **AlumniLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:19 pm

CSUalum32 wrote:I agree, i dont think that a top D-B team could play with the top high school teams in the country, i think top D-A teams could take care of themselves though.

as far as competing with DI-III schools, this is like beating a dead horse. there are many other threads that discuss this topic.

i know. believe me. i'm sick and tired of discussing this topic. either here or over on laxpower. the arguement is irrelevant.

by **TrojanLaxman5** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:01 pm

During the CSU vs. UCSB game at the First Four exhibition, I overheard two Monte Vista HS (Danville, CA, #4 in CA Laxpower Rankings) players saying how their team could easily beat UCSB. I literally turned around and laughed...

Although it is irrelevant, in HS, our team played against St. Paul's (Baltimore, MD) when they were ranked #1 in the country and from what comparisons (if any) that I can draw, I think they would have beaten many USLIA teams, but still not many of the top programs (CSU, BYU, UCSB, etc).

by **DanGenck** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:15 pm

As a player who was once on a top high school program and currently playing for a Division B team, I can confidently say that St. John's would POUND most (if not all) high school teams. And of course, if we would beat those teams, surely Division A programs would as well.

The reasoning lies in the same reason that hockey teams from New England can beat hockey teams from Minnesota. Are the Minnesota teams better? Fundamentally, yes. But teams that are poor fundamentally make up for their lack of talent in physical play.

A 6'3" 220 lbs. college defenseman who coma slides into a 5'9" high school senior is going to put that kid in the hospital. This translates into all aspects of the game. College teams ride and clear harder, not to mention that they have more experience and poise.

Colorado State- 22
Landon- 6

by **AlumniLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:33 pm

DanGenck wrote:As a player who was once on a top high school program and currently playing for a Division B team, I can confidently say that St. John's would POUND most(if not all) high school teams. And of course, if we would beat those teams, surely Division A programs would as well.

i shouldn't even reply but you have lured me back into the convo. with that assine comment. question, where did you play in HS? i have the pleasure now living and working in balto. area and also had the pleasure of playing top teams in the country during my HS career. there is no way, and i mean NO way, that a division a or b team could come close. i'm sorry, but it's true. granted prob. the top 1-5 even maybe top 1-8 could give teams like st. paul's, landon, prep, etc. good games and prob. win. but , a div. b team would not even come close. sure the intimidation is there, but i don't think you understand the talent level that plays on the top HS teams of the country. if you did you would not have made that statement. not only is the talent level difference huge, but the coaching. most of these coaches have know/coached these kids since they were in a crib. it's a fact. st. peter's is a league up here and they are bred onto these teams. guess how old they are? not 13.... but only 5. i coached kids in rec. leagues that have been playing together as a group since that age, and guess what they all go to the same school. it's a fact of life that we all have to live with, the talent level even on the bench on these teams is HUGE. liek the kid said above, 13, THIRTEEN kids are going to some sort of D-I program on just one team, landon.

your arguement, while good on premace, is flat wrong. it hurts to say this, but most team in the league, both a and b would be beaten by these teams.

by **John Paul** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:08 pm

I usually stay out of these kinds of discussions, but I am a little embarassed when IA people get into these comparisons - high school or NCAA. That said, I completely agree with alumnilax's assesment.

by **AlumniLax** on Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:52 pm

with what JP said, i know resign myself from this chat. hopefully i wont be baited into coming back either :!: