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GK B1 makes a save, clears the ball by himself, shoots, and scores a goal. Right after the goal, the officials clearly see the goalie pull a string on the head of his crosse.

Ruling?

No goal. B1 serves one-minute NR foul. A1 ball.

Why would this situation be any different then a "field player" doing the same thing?

No way!? not that I am a goalie or i see a lot of goalies scoring, but it doesnt seem like the pull string rule should apply to a stick which no other stringing requirements apply to. Of course i have never read the rule book, but that just doesnt make sense.

Buc_em_up wrote:Of course i have never read the rule book, but that just doesnt make sense.

Perhaps you should read the rule book sometime, especially the rule changes for 2008.

I'm with Sonny on this one - there is no differentiation for goalies in the new rule this year on pulling the strings after scoring a goal, even if the stick has not been called for by the ref.
Spend some time with the rulebook, Buc-'em - especially goalkeeper privileges - you might learn some useful things!

By the letter of the law, it's clearly no goal and a 1:00 NR USC. But since the whole point of the rule is to keep players from having an illegally deep pocket, and then making it legal after scoring a goal, it seems out of line for that to apply to a GK (who can have a pocket as deep as he wants).

For what it's worth, it similarly doesn't seem too likely that a goalie would have a pull-string, for the purposes of altering his pocket, anyway; so unless he's just absent-mindedly caressing his stick in a way that violates a rule as written, hopefully this situation won't arise too often. But it does point out an interesting situation, and what LaxRef says makes a lot of sense: by application of a rule in the book, as long as it's there, it ought to be enforced evenly, but perhaps the rule could stand a bit of clarification in that case.

My initial reaction to this question is to call a 1mNR on the goalie because this is the rule, and after thinking about it and seeing other's responses, I would still ding the keeper for the pull string. I myself do not know why a GK would have a pull string to create an advantage, but there may be a reason that I do not know about today or in the future. I've seen some keepers who are excellent on the clear for aim, speed, and accuracy, and their crosses (that I have seen) have well placed shooter strings. Now, can a pull string make a difference? I personally do not know but the GK may think that they are creating an advantage by having one.

Keep in mind the rule that says:

NCAA Rule 1-19 wrote:Any strings or leathers used to attach the pocket to the crosse are limited to a hanging length of 2 inches. The use of pull strings to alter the depth of the pocket is illegal.

So I think it really is about altering the depth of the pocket.

Yes, I should have cited that the rule says altering pocket depth, and what I was visualizing was altering the pocket depth to gain some type of advantage. Again, I do not know why a keeper would gain any advantage with a pull string, but the rules are clear at this point.

BlueJaysLaxFan wrote:Yes, I should have cited that the rule says altering pocket depth, and what I was visualizing was altering the pocket depth to gain some type of advantage. Again, I do not know why a keeper would gain any advantage with a pull string, but the rules are clear at this point.

Well, but only because no one thought of this situation when they wrote the rule.

Teams in the PNCLL were instructed this weekend to cut all strings as well as excess mesh to 2 inches or less. What do you guys think about this rule? I understand it is to combat pull strings...

nhoskins wrote:Teams in the PNCLL were instructed this weekend to cut all strings as well as excess mesh to 2 inches or less. What do you guys think about this rule? I understand it is to combat pull strings...

This doesn't just apply to the PNCLL teams. It's one of the new NCAA rules for 2008.

nhoskins wrote:Teams in the PNCLL were instructed this weekend to cut all strings as well as excess mesh to 2 inches or less. What do you guys think about this rule? I understand it is to combat pull strings...

They should not be telling you to cut the mesh. They should be telling you to cut the strings.

LaxRef wrote:

nhoskins wrote:Teams in the PNCLL were instructed this weekend to cut all strings as well as excess mesh to 2 inches or less. What do you guys think about this rule? I understand it is to combat pull strings...

They should not be telling you to cut the mesh. They should be telling you to cut the strings.

Not the mesh? A bit late for that now...

Sonny wrote:This doesn't just apply to the PNCLL teams. It's one of the new NCAA rules for 2008.

Yeah, I figured as much. Really mixed up the warm-up though being told 20 minutes prior to face-off that strings had to go. Then again, I suppose we should know the rules...