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Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:34 pm**

USL COLLEGIATE OFFICIALS COMMITTEE NEWSLETTER 10/15/07

From Chuck Winters, NCAA Rules Secretary:

On the new 10 second count, if a ball leaves the attack area in any manner, the 10 second count would begin when the ball touches the ground outside the attack area.

In the new face-off rule, a technical violation by a wingman would result in his face-off man having to leave the field through the special substitution area. The committee felt that by having all technical violations on the face- off (wing or X) result in the face-off man having to leave the field, it would be a more consistent call for the officials.

The new ball by Warrior was approved. This ball has a slight sandpaper like texture to it. The committee still felt the surface was relatively smooth.

Eric Evans
COC Secretary

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:39 pm**

So, this rule is now broader - and still no mechanic?

In the new face-off rule, a technical violation by a wingman would result in his face-off man having to leave the field through the special substitution area. The committee felt that by having all technical violations on the face- off (wing or X) result in the face-off man having to leave the field, it would be a more consistent call for the officials.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:39 pm**

new warrior ball? what was wrong with the old ones?

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:41 pm**

Rob Graff wrote:So, this rule is now broader - and still no mechanic?

Sounds like it. I haven't see any mechanics for this new faceoff procedures yet.

It's going to be mass chaos.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:57 pm**

Sonny wrote:
Rob Graff wrote:So, this rule is now broader - and still no mechanic?

Sounds like it. I haven't see any mechanics for this new faceoff procedures yet.

It's going to be mass chaos.

Don't expect to hear anything final on mechanics until the convention. But my understanding is that the face-off middie must sub out but play starts immediately, creating a short man-up. If it's a wing-line violation, the face-off middie is still the one to sub out.

We used this rule in fall ball. It didn't come into play at all in 5 of the 7 games but came up multiple times in the others. It really wasn't a big deal: you send the guy off and start play, he sprints off, and a sub comes on.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:05 pm**

I'm going to the convention just to watch all the bantering about this.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:02 pm**

LaxRef:

With deference, our experience differed in fall ball. The man advantage is noticible - but short. A team with a smart f/o man and good attack can take advantage.

Rob

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:27 pm**

Rob Graff wrote:LaxRef:

With deference, our experience differed in fall ball. The man advantage is noticible - but short. A team with a smart f/o man and good attack can take advantage.

Rob

I wasn't saying that there wasn't an advantage. This will take some getting used to for teams, and they wouldn't have made the rule change if they didn't think it was going to affect the game: it will lead to some fast-break goals, I'm sure, but I wouldn't want to estimate how many.

My point was that I don't think the mechanics involved are going to create any problems for the officials. They'll tell us how they want it done and we'll do it. I don't think we'll be in a situation like we were with the extended flag-down rule, where many of us couldn't immediately turn off years of training, so we blew the whistle when the ball hit the ground. I can't see this one presenting the same kind of problem.

(Now we've come full circle on the flag down. Instead of getting yelled at for blowing the whistle too soon when the ball hits the ground, the millisecond the defense gains possession we have people yelling at us to blow the whistle before we have a chance to make sure he really has possession!)

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:28 pm**

If the ball is going toward the face-off officials' goal (as the New Lead), the SS will have to cover. The team entitled to possession will be screaming for the quick restart, regardless of whether the officials are ready or not.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:36 pm**

FWIW, the new ball will actually save everyone a bunch of money in the long run. The textured surface stays much longer than the current balls, which get "slippery" pretty quickly. Shooters will love it too b/c those who can spin it will get some extra grip.

Posted: **Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:40 pm**

Sonny wrote:If the ball is going toward the face-off officials' goal (as the New Lead), the SS will have to cover. The team entitled to possession will be screaming for the quick restart, regardless of whether the officials are ready or not.

True, but the single side (or center, for those who prefer that term) has the face-off official's goal on a face-off anyway. The trail would have the restart, so the face-off official (now the lead) can break down the field as well.

And, yes, the players will want a quick restart—and we'll try to oblige—but there are other times during the game they're begging for a whistle and we don't give it to them because we can't; they'll just have to deal with it when it happens.

The biggest problem with this rule is that if A1 jumps early and knows he's going to get busted, he's going to rake the ball away to give himself time to get off. You can give him a delay of game, but only if it's clear that it wasn't part of his attempt to play the faceoff (e.g., if you never blow the whistle and tell them to stand up and he rakes it away, throw the flag, but if he goes early but you still blow the whistle and he rakes it away, you can't really give the delay penalty).