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Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:46 pm**

I had a question if someone is willing to try to answer it for me.

Here is the situation -
During a game I was playing goalie and the team that we were playing had a fast break opportunity. They passed the ball up the field to an open attackman and I made a slide out of the crease to try to either knock the ball down or knock the player down to drop the ball to stop the fast break.

What happened was when I came out of the crease and hit the player, he did not turn around as expected and I was called for a "Push with Possession" and I had to serve a 30sec penalty in the box.

My question is,
1.) If a goalie is called for a penalty can the in-home player serve the penalty in his place?
2.) Can it depend on the severity of the penalty that the in-home player can serve it?
3.) Finally, its my fault and I must serve the penalty for my own mistake?

That's my question.

Thanks

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:49 pm**

There is a new rule, it may be a few years old, but now golies have to serve their time. the in home is now for things like bench fouls, ie if your coach yells and gets a flag. it does not depend on the penalty, the golie serves no matter what. i think i am correct.

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:00 pm**

Goalies serve all of their penalties, it doesn't matter what type.
The replacement is allowed a one-minute warm-up after they get into the goal, and the rest of the team is allowed to pray for him while the one minute ticks off.
Only in middle school is the goalie allowed to have his penalty served for him, unless it is unsprtsmanlike conduct.

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:59 pm**

laxfan25 wrote:Goalies serve all of their penalties, it doesn't matter what type.
The replacement is allowed a one-minute warm-up after they get into the goal, and the rest of the team is allowed to pray for him while the one minute ticks off.

This is an NFHS rule. In NCAA, they have to call a timeout to warm up the goalie.

laxfan25 wrote:Only in middle school is the goalie allowed to have his penalty served for him, unless it is unsprtsmanlike conduct.

That may be a local rule; it is not an official boys youth rule AFAIK.

The NCAA Rules are clear on these issues:

NCAA Rule 6 wrote:A.R. 33. Goalkeeper B1 leaves the field of play due to an injury or a penalty. Should
the 20-second delay-of-game be strictly adhered to? RULING: No. When a substitute
goalkeeper is involved, the officials shall be reasonably lenient. If Team B wishes to
warm-up goalkeeper, it must call a timeout.

A.R. 36. Goalkeeper B1 commits a personal or technical foul. Can the in-home serve the
penalty? RULING: No. B1 must serve the penalty, and a legally equipped substitute
goalkeeper must report into the game. If Team B has only one set of goalie equipment,
B1 will be given a reasonable amount of time to switch his equipment to another player;
in this situation, if Team B wants to get their original goalkeeper back into the game, they
must do so during a timeout or between periods.

A.R. 37. Goalkeeper B1 must leave the game due to an injury or expulsion. Team B
refuses to send in another player to play that position. RULING: Team B must put a
legally equipped goalkeeper on the field or it forfeits the game.

These are not new rules. I submitted some of these A.R.s a few years ago because of the widespread confusion on the issues, but they didn't change anything.

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:17 pm**

This is NOT a new rule. It has been in place for many many years at the College level.

The call, as described, was administered correctly. Goalies serve penalty time for either technical or personal fouls they commit.

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:03 pm**

The replacement is allowed a one-minute warm-up after they get into the goal, and the rest of the team is allowed to pray for him while the one minute ticks off.

And we did. As soon as that 30sec was up, we called a time-out and got that guy out of there, for his sake and our own.

Thanks for clearing that one up for me guys. I just thought I had heard somewhere that this was a possibility, but I guess not.

Maybe next time I will Ill just stick to playing goalie and avoid the push with possession call all together.

Posted: **Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:35 pm**

Lax4LifeGoalie wrote:
The replacement is allowed a one-minute warm-up after they get into the goal, and the rest of the team is allowed to pray for him while the one minute ticks off.

And we did. As soon as that 30sec was up, we called a time-out and got that guy out of there, for his sake and our own.

Thanks for clearing that one up for me guys. I just thought I had heard somewhere that this was a possibility, but I guess not.

I believe it is a myth that originates from hockey.

Posted: **Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:27 pm**

LaxRef wrote:
Lax4LifeGoalie wrote:
The replacement is allowed a one-minute warm-up after they get into the goal, and the rest of the team is allowed to pray for him while the one minute ticks off.

And we did. As soon as that 30sec was up, we called a time-out and got that guy out of there, for his sake and our own.

Thanks for clearing that one up for me guys. I just thought I had heard somewhere that this was a possibility, but I guess not.

I believe it is a myth that originates from hockey.

Well, in boxla here in BC, goalies don't serve their penalties although they can still get kicked out of the game.

Also, in the lower ages in field lacrosse (not entirely sure what the actual rule is these days) it is common for the goalie to not serve his penalties for reasons of safety since it is a rare team that has another goalie on the sidelines or a kid dressed that is comfortable stepping into the goal. The actual rules may not allow that but refs often bow to the necessities of safety for these young age groups (13 and under) and make the ruling that goalies will not serve due to safety reasons.

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