Dive?

[PigPen]

I need a ref to clearify this. What is the dive rule. I have been noticing the past couple years that attackmen have been finishing their goals and landing in the crease. I am watching JHU/Princeton game and one of first goals of the game had an attackman landing in the crease. What is the intent of the rule and ow should be called? Any refs in the house?

[CATLAX MAN]

Happened in the BYU game last night also. Commentators said that it should not have been a goal, but a slash probably should have been called on the play.

I'm no expert, but I think if you land in the crease of your own accord, the goal should be waved off. If you're "assisted" in there by the opposing team, the goal is good.

[laxfan25]

Here is what the rules say:
If an offensive player deliberately leaves his feet by diving or jumping
and his own momentum carries him into the crease, and his shot goes
into the goal, the goal is disallowed.
So if a player runs through the crease AFTER his shot has gone in the goal, no problem. But if he leaves his feet on a jump or dive, no goal, even if the ball is in the net before he lands in the crease.
If there is any assist from the defense on the player going in, the goal would be good IF he doesn't touch the crease before the ball goes in, otherwise we likely have a push or illegal body check, with possession. Serve 30 or a minute and the attack gets the ball outside the box.
(This call is often missed, the ref sees the guy step in the crease and is not noticing how he got there, which is sometimes a forearm in the back. In my training classes I try to get them to see the big picture.)

[PigPen]

Su/Georgetwon game-same thing, no push, just dove in. They got to do something about this (preferably lift the rule)

[laxfan25]

Su/Georgetwon game-same thing, no push, just dove in. They got to do something about this (preferably lift the rule)

Here's an innovative concept - Make the Call! Nothing wrong with the rule.

[Anderson]

Su/Georgetwon game-same thing, no push, just dove in. They got to do something about this (preferably lift the rule)

I actually think its a good rule. Don't want people diving into the crease and hitting your goalie on "accident" do you, and a good attackman can do the same thing without the dive.

[PigPen]

I like the dive, some old folk on these boards that know who I am, might even remember that it was a bread and butter move for me, I never launched myself at the goalie and never made contact with one. But I understand the rule, not all attackmen are goalie conscious. Point being-if it's a rule it needs to be called, and I don't see that happening at the DI level (although I have noticed the MDIA has been pretty good at calling it over the past couple of years).

[Anderson]

Point being-if it's a rule it needs to be called.

I agree with that completely.

[Lax_Stats]

This is a great rule for goalie protection! Some of the factors that make making this call tough are the following. The lead official MUST follow the shot at all costs to ensure when in fact a goal has actually been scored and when it has not. The single side and trail officials are watching the shooter and action off the ball for such things as moving picks, interference, late hits, etc. They must resist the temptation to be watching the man with the ball shoot and follow his shot to the goal. This is the most common reason for missing a late hit. Depending where the ball is on the field, high or low, right or left, etc determines through officiating mechanics who should be watching what and when. When a shot is taken, the lead official should be on the goal line extended and at least one official should have his eagle eye on the shooter to make sure any hits on him are timed well or called appropriately as unnecessary roughness or illegal body checks. Okay, I'm rabbit trailing a little bit. A shooter on the crease or driving the goal and leaving his feet must be watched carefully to ensure if he does dive during his shot and lands in the crease, did he land there due to his own actions or the actions of an opposing player? If a goal is scored and the shooter ends up in the crease, the officials shouldn't be afraid, if need be, to conference to make sure of what each other saw (if there is any question that is) as to whether a goal should or should not be awarded and if a violation should or should not be called. Awarding a goal or disallowing a goal is an extremely important call to get right!

[WCLLPREZ]

I believe this explanation on how this particular mechanic should be handled is quite excellent. I hope it can be shared with all officials so that some consistency can be achieved. It is really a safety issue that could have some potentially devsating repercussions should player to goalie (defensemen) contact be made while the attackman is in a prone, head-leading position.

[Lax_Stats]

Thank you!

[PigPen]

Pick your DI game Saturday-I got money that we will see at least one dive counted. I say it happens in the Umass game.