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glove battle

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:18 pm
by SFAlax14
since they are practically the same design. which glove is better, the Brine Deft or the Warrior Mac Daddy?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:21 am
by dv
i would say the mac daddy is better, but its also 300 dollars making it basically a leather superfreak for 2x the price

if you like the deft, buy it
if you like the mac daddy, buy superfreaks

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:31 pm
by ZsT
Well, Regular Mac Daddies run for 160-170...the Limited Edition Mac Daddies run for 300.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:56 pm
by OAKS
ZsT wrote:Well, Regular Mac Daddies run for 160-170...the Limited Edition Mac Daddies run for 300.


Good lord, I remember when $300 could buy you the top of the line head, a warrior titan, the highest priced helmet, and the most expensive pair of gloves. and i'm only 22. guess explosive growth comes with a price

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:26 pm
by AlumniLax
the mac daddy limiteds have an all leather palm


i dont think i would want that anymore after using the mesh palms.....

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:00 am
by Rob Graff
Will, you started this trip down memory lane.

First gloves - purchased at Hermans @smithhaven mall in LI -Brine $30.

First Stick - Brine PL-66 w/NEW metal shaft (remember in 1978, plastic/metal was cutting edge technology) $20.00 (on sale).

And yes I do remember that far back - probably the most anticipated shopping trip in my life.

ON a serious note, I just get concerned that the entry price on new equipment is significantly narrowing the pool of players starting the game.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:45 am
by DanGenck
You are right, Rob. The prices are rising too fast and I think it is hurting some of the new players. Teams are getting price breaks on uniforms, helmets, etc but that means companies are passing the higher prices on to individual purchases (sticks, gloves).

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:53 am
by onpoint
Most manufacturers have pretty decently priced starter kits for kids who don't need the top of the line stuff. I worked at a sporting goods store for a couple years and Brine/Stx both have gloves/arm pads/shoulder pad sets for like $60-75. You can get a 10-13 year old a decent stick for $35. The helmet is what kills these parents, but even those are coming down a little. $94 for the Cascade youth helmet. Overall, you can probably get a kid going for a little over $200, which isn't terrible. I feel worse for hockey parents, who easily could spend upwards of $400 just to get their kid outfitted. Skates are damn expensive.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:36 am
by Danny Hogan
and actually the beginners sticks/gloves are quite more advanced than beginners sticks of the past. the STX AV8 which is only like 30 bucks (brine and debeer have slightly altered same thing) is basically the same as their high end sticks. A lot of the old men in the club leagues use them because they are not so caught up in the name branding and the technology is virtually the same.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:40 pm
by Rob Graff
But parents don't look (and noone markets) the less expensive stuff. they see the price tag on the high end stuff, and often stop looking, immediatley assuming it's "hockey pt. two" from an expense standpoint.

I hope I'm wrong on this topic.

I do agree that the lesser $ sticks are more than suitable for younger players - and many skilled players as well.

Rob

Warrior Gear

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:50 pm
by Troy Hood
Back to the first question of the topic: Mac Daddies vs. Deft. I've seen and tried on the Mac Daddies and I can't see why spending that much money for a pair of gloves makes any sense at all.

This season, we went a different route with STX Gladiators. I've yet to find a more comfortable glove right off the shelf and the custom order came through earlier than promised with all of the colors and stitching correct.

Another glove I've been hearing about is the Gait Insanity. It looks to be like all of Paul's products; just a little different that anyone else's with innovations that aren't found on other products.

In closing, I'd like to comment about how fortunate today's player is to be able to select from products from so many manufacturers each with their own ideas. Make your selections wisely and you won't be disappointed.

Regards,

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:22 pm
by tlaing1
Being a current employee of a lacrosse store, I find that price is dictates quality in the eyes of many people. I find the STX AV8 and the DeBeer Icon to be great sticks in general for their price range. MacDaddys I find are amazing. They have better ventilation and range of motion. The Defts are sweet but they have no top ventilation so the sweat stays inside. The $300 Mac Daddys are amazing, its like putting on a velvet glove.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:43 pm
by PigPen
Rob-that's old school. But I do remember having Pops buy me a Brine Shotgun with a graphite shaft (all of which was top of the line at the time) for about $45. As for price-it's a little out of control, but with technology comes the price. Look at the Brine's L-35's which were the most popular top of the line glove just 6-7 years ago, and compare them to the Defts, MAcs or anyting else. The protection is incredible. I was commenting how I wish I had someting like this back in college (day in/ day out playing) so that I ddin't break so many fingers on the crease. Right after I said that I broke another off of feed and I was wearing some Warrior Superstars at the time. Point being-price will go with Technology, but even that has it's limits, a good check, shot, etc. will do it's damage.

On the glove note-I like the looks of the Galdiators, but when I tried them on, they seemed really stiff-can anyone tell me is this normal and will they break in, or is the way they will pretty much stay. Warrior makes so pretty nice gloves, but I don't want to take out another mortgage. I'd rather put the $ into something to protect the noggin.

BTW does anyone know anything about helmet warranties? I bent a CPro (facemask) and I bent back into place. It looks fine, but I'm worried that it won't be as strong (third Cpro I have broken in three years) or if I should even keep using it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:01 pm
by rmstolley
I haven't tried on the Deft but the mac-daddys are sweet. i tried on the limited edition and the material on the palms is rediculous, its like not wearing gloves at all. they were very flexible and tough as well. But $300?! no way.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:18 pm
by Daniel Morris
rmstolley wrote:I haven't tried on the Deft but the mac-daddys are sweet. i tried on the limited edition and the material on the palms is rediculous, its like not wearing gloves at all. they were very flexible and tough as well. But $300?! no way.


I agree. The Mac-Daddys are like playing naked but the price is unjustifiable. I have purchased cars for under $300.