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Balance of Players

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:12 pm
by MinesGoallie45
After being up in Vail for the last few days and watching the Mammoth team "aka Team Canada" play...it occured to me, that a majority of NLL teams are in the US while a majority of the players are Canadian. While thats ok because Box is a sport that is more popular in Canada, it doesnt give american college players the chance to get a shot at it.

The Canadian football league has some interesting rules to deal with players on their teams

From Wikipedia

"The CFL currently limits each team to 20 "imports," (i.e. players who have received training in gridiron football outside of Canada). In practice, nearly all of the CFL's "imports" are from the United States. [3]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League

So if there is 60 people on a football team, that means only 1/3 can be from out of country. I think this should apply to the NLL as well, giving american fans a chance to watch american players, and letting american players a chance to advance to the next level.

Just an idea.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:19 pm
by cjwilhelmi
I would rather watch the best, regardless of where they are from.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:12 pm
by MinesGoallie45
The problem is often american players who are good arent given the time of day because they arent "in" the farm programs of Jr and Sr's in Canada..

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:50 am
by Tim Whitehead
I believe CFL rosters are set at 37 players, so the teams are over half American.

As the NLL keeps expanding, more American players will get a chance. The league has also explored creating a minor league to help develop American players.

One question... how would you propose the "import" rule would be handled with the Canadian teams? Would they be limited to a certain number of Canadians, or could they have as many as they please? If they were allowed to go all Canadian while the American teams couldn't, this would be a big advantage for them. This is how the Toronto Rock dynasty started... they were going all Canadian before anyone else and won something like 4 of 5 championships.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:21 am
by OAKS
Does it matter if there's a majority of Canadian players in the NLL? It's promoting the sport (even if some might consider it more a bastardization than the real thing) throughout the U.S. And from what I remember, didn't we win the last indoor world cup?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:23 am
by MinesGoallie45
Tim Whitehead wrote:I believe CFL rosters are set at 37 players, so the teams are over half American.

As the NLL keeps expanding, more American players will get a chance. The league has also explored creating a minor league to help develop American players.

One question... how would you propose the "import" rule would be handled with the Canadian teams? Would they be limited to a certain number of Canadians, or could they have as many as they please? If they were allowed to go all Canadian while the American teams couldn't, this would be a big advantage for them. This is how the Toronto Rock dynasty started... they were going all Canadian before anyone else and won something like 4 of 5 championships.


I think a minor league would be a GREAT idea. I think the import rule would be reversed for Canadian teams, only a certain number of Americans. And even if we did win the last indoor cup, with teams being coached and run by Canadians, there are going to be baised by their preferance for their countryman. If a coach is faced with a decision of two equal players, they are ussually going to go for the one from their country, from their farm team which they have heard of coming up the ranks. Its sorta the same thing for highschool football players, its harder for a player from a small school, say 300 people, to get a full ride to a D1 college then it would be for a player from a school with 3000 people because the infostructure is there and it provides for that player to be more well known.

I just think there is a lack of advancment possibilites for American Box players, be it the NLL or whatever. Its pretty hard for an American player to put aside a carear to go play Sr B in Canada.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:35 pm
by Tim Whitehead
OAKS wrote:And from what I remember, didn't we win the last indoor world cup?


Nope. You lost in the semis....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:58 pm
by Danny Hogan
MinesGoallie45 wrote: Its sorta the same thing for highschool football players, its harder for a player from a small school, say 300 people, to get a full ride to a D1 college then it would be for a player from a school with 3000 people because the infostructure is there and it provides for that player to be more well known.


not necessarily, it is often better to be a big fish in a small pond.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:57 pm
by KnoxVegas
Ever tried listening to the radio in Canada? What is it Tim, 60% Canadian content versus 40% international?

A lot of countries put a restriction on the number of foreign nationals that can particiapte in their business.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:33 pm
by Tim Whitehead
KnoxVegas wrote:Ever tried listening to the radio in Canada? What is it Tim, 60% Canadian content versus 40% international?

A lot of countries put a restriction on the number of foreign nationals that can particiapte in their business.


Radio and TV in Canada has a Canadian Content rule, which states that anywhere from 20 - 35% on the radio and 50 - 60% of TV being aired must be "Canadian". There's a formula that determines what is "Canadian" based on who writes, performs, directs, produces, etc. More info can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:44 am
by Sonny
Tim Whitehead wrote:
KnoxVegas wrote:Ever tried listening to the radio in Canada? What is it Tim, 60% Canadian content versus 40% international?

A lot of countries put a restriction on the number of foreign nationals that can particiapte in their business.


Radio and TV in Canada has a Canadian Content rule, which states that anywhere from 20 - 35% on the radio and 50 - 60% of TV being aired must be "Canadian". There's a formula that determines what is "Canadian" based on who writes, performs, directs, produces, etc. More info can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_content


So much for a free market? eh?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:53 am
by Tim Whitehead
Sonny, if you think the USA has a free market that you need to take an introductory economics class...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:47 pm
by MinesGoallie45
Its just Canada can do that sorta stuff, but if the US did it, everyone would be up in arms...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:29 pm
by Tim Whitehead
The US has a ton of restrictions on free market dealings. It is one of the most free markets in the world, but is far from a "free" market.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:56 pm
by PNWLaxer
The US did win some indoor championship 5-7 yrs ago. Both teams were made up of NLL players I can't remember what it was called and I think it was only played twice, each country winning one.