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I am a little surprised that BYU is in the top ten still. I dont think I can be critical of the poll, I cant imagine what the perfect poll would look like. Not after this past week.

can we add records behind the team's listing?

Odd that my fellow voters vaulted FSU over UCSB. The Gauchos lost twice in close games to top 3 teams, while the Seminoles won a close game over #13 GT. FSU is a quality team, of course, but I don;t see how they deserve to leap-frog UCSB... but this is just my two cents.

Dan Wishengrad wrote:Odd that my fellow voters vaulted FSU over UCSB. The Gauchos lost twice in close games to top 3 teams, while the Seminoles won a close game over #13 GT. FSU is a quality team, of course, but I don;t see how they deserve to leap-frog UCSB... but this is just my two cents.

Obviously, I agree, but I don't think a top 4 seed will matter as much this year. With UCSB, Colorado, Oregon, UCSD and BYU in the bottom of the bracket for the second round, no top 4 seed will have it easy. Throw in Lindenwood with a year of tournament experience and you could see some 5 thru 8 teams in the semi's this year.

i guess since i have nothing better to do, ill compare them to last poll.

1. Sonoma State (21 First Place Votes) - 741 pts.....1. Sonoma State (21 First Place Votes) - 735 pts
2. Colorado State (9 First Place Votes) - 727 pts......2. Colorado State (4 First Place Votes) - 717 pts
3. Michigan - 669 pts..............................................3. Univ. of California, Santa Barbara (5 First Place Votes) - 699 pts
4. Florida State - 653 pts........................................4. Michigan - 653 pts
5. Univ. of California, Santa Barbara - 635 pts..........5. Brigham Young University - 633 pts
6. Oregon - 579 pts................................................6. Florida State - 597 pts
7. Colorado - 566 pts..............................................7. Oregon - 557 pts
8. Univ. of California, San Diego - 518 pts..............8. Colorado - 526 pts
9. Brigham Young University - 483 pts......................9. Univ. of California, San Diego - 511 pts
10. Lindenwood University - 466 pts.....................10. Virginia Tech - 436 pts
11. Virginia Tech - 454 pts.......................................11. Oakland University - 423 pts
12. Arizona - 420 pts.............................................12. Lindenwood University - 411 pts
13. Georgia Tech - 391 pts......................................13. Georgia Tech - 351 pts
14. Cal Poly SLO - 372 pts.....................................14. Chapman University - 340 pts
15. Northeastern University - 301 pts...................15. Arizona - 322 pts
16. Utah - 270 pts.................................................16. Northeastern University - 299 pts
17. Oakland University - 253 pts.............................17. Cal Poly SLO - 266 pts
18. Minnesota-Duluth - 218 pts.............................18. Chico State - 204 pts
19. Chico State - 198 pts.........................................19. Utah - 197 pts
20. Chapman University - 148 pts............................20. Boston College - 192 pts
21. Michigan State - 112 pts..................................21. Minnesota-Duluth - 177 pts
22. Texas Tech - 103 pts........................................22. Michigan State - 170 pts
23. Arizona State - 95 pts......................................23. Texas Tech - 125 pts
24. Boston College - 86 pts......................................24. Simon Fraser University - 59 pts
25. UCLA - 52 pts....................................................25. Minnesota - 45 pts

alright, since i really have nothing to do, i color coded it. if they are red, they moved down, if they are bold, they moved up. if they are standard font, they didnt move.

I believe that the top 10 should really look like this:
1) Sonoma State- really no reason to move them from the top spot yet.
2) Colorado State- Wins over UCSB and impressive win over Colorado College
3) Michigan- Opening loss to BYU but rebounded to beat both UCSD and UCSB by comfortable margins
4) UCSB - Close losses to both CSU and Michigan and win over UCSD, played #2 and #3 can't fault them too much for the L, hurts though that they were at home
5) Colorado - Beat Colorado College in scrimage, won Big XII Tournament (played whole roster), not so much as impressive but more so than other teams.
6) FSU - Winning but really haven't played anybody yet
7) Oregon - Winning but scary game with Simon Frasier
UCSD - Close losses to both Michigan and Sonoma State
9) BYU - Win against UCSB but just too many losses too soon to lesser teams
10) Lindenwood - Winning but not really playing anyone

univduke21 wrote:I believe that the top 10 should really look like this:

4) UCSB - Close losses to both CSU and Michigan and win over UCSD, played #2 and #3 can't fault them too much for the L, hurts though that they were at home

9) BYU - Win against UCSB but just too many losses too soon to lesser teams

UCSB & UCSD have not played yet. BYU lost to UCSB. BYU has a win against Michigan.

Sorry, thanks for the corrections though. Inserted the wrong teams but the rankings should stay the same. Thanks Catlax man

just curious what the thought process behind boston college
they dropped 2 games to UGA and GT

UofMLaxGoalie11 wrote:i guess since i have nothing better to do, ill compare them to last poll.

I think it's more accurate (and far more important) to follow the overall point totals from poll to poll versus poll positions.

Sonny wrote:

UofMLaxGoalie11 wrote:i guess since i have nothing better to do, ill compare them to last poll.

I think it's more accurate (and far more important) to follow the overall point totals from poll to poll versus poll positions.

Interesting observation Sonny...
several teams lost points but moved up in the rankings.

For as difficult as that poll was, I think the collective group came up with a pretty accurate poll for the amount of games played. The only team I would have more than a spot or two where they ended up was Cal Poly. They beat everyone 9 and below (including 3 quality ranked wins) and lost to 5 and 8. Maybe they shouldn't be ranked 8.5 but 14 may be little low given their results so far. Lot of great games coming up all over the country though. So every team has time to earn rankings. Can't wait to see how this season shakes out. I don't think there will be any gimme games in Dallas this year.

No offense to the program, but BYU should not even be in the top ten. Too many losses. Period. No matter who they were to.

Michigan, UCSB, and FSU are all interchangable (they are close in pts. anyway).

Maybe an Arizona/VT switch.

Overall a pretty good poll, as Sonny said looking at the point totals is more revealing than the rankings. I still feel that people are hesitant to play around with rankings of the traditional "top teams" in the MDIA leaving out lot of potentially great programs.

But if we couldn't gripe and complain about it, no one would care about the poll anyway ; ) Thank you to the pollsters for your time.

If the tourney was being held today, these teams would be in (assuming highest rated team in each conference gets AQ):

WCLL - (4) Sonoma, UCSB, UCSD, Arizona
RMLC - (3) CSU, BYU, Colorado
SELC - (3) Florida St., VA Tech, GA Tech
CCLA - (1) Michigan
PNCLL - (1) Oregon
GRLC - (1) Lindenwood
UMLL - (1) Minnesota-Duluth
LSA - (1) Texas Tech
PCLL - (1) Northeastern

On the outside - Cal Poly, Oakland, Utah