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Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:15 am
by LaxTV_Admin
1. Colorado State 725 29
2. Colorado 685
3. Chapman 656
4. Arizona State 624
5. Brigham Young 620
6. UCSB 568
7. Sonoma State 520
8. Boston College 502
9. California 500
10. Oregon 434
11. Michigan State 423
12. Stanford 420
13. Grand Canyon 389
14. Texas 373
15. Connecticut 298
16. Minnesota-Duluth 260
17. Simon Fraser 228
18. Cal Poly 224
19. Oregon State 207
20. Davenport 199
21. Arizona 138
22. Pittsburgh 117
23. Northeastern 96
24. Georgia Tech 82
25. Virginia Tech 59

Others Receiving Votes
Georgia (45), Buffalo (8), Indiana (5), Texas State (4), Minnesota (4), Southern Methodist (3), Clemson (3), Richmond (3), Boston University (2), San Diego State (1)

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:44 am
by bhsvideodad
If rankings were seedings, it would be Oregon vs Sonoma State. However, I am guess there will be some movement before the tournament, especially in the WCLL with SSU 7, CA: 9 and Stanford 12.

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:08 am
by Ravaging Beast
bhsvideodad wrote:If rankings were seedings, it would be Oregon vs Sonoma State. However, I am guess there will be some movement before the tournament, especially in the WCLL with SSU 7, CA: 9 and Stanford 12.

Don't forget Cal Poly too.

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:25 am
by LaxTV_Admin
Ravaging Beast wrote:
bhsvideodad wrote:If rankings were seedings, it would be Oregon vs Sonoma State. However, I am guess there will be some movement before the tournament, especially in the WCLL with SSU 7, CA: 9 and Stanford 12.

Don't forget Cal Poly too.


Final Four teams are set. Stanford v. Cal & Poly v. Chico will have big implications on who gets what seed. Games will be at Novato HS. #1 v. #4 @ 11:45am and #2 v. #3 @ 2:30pm.

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:47 am
by slider
How does the WCLL tie-breaker work? If Stanford beats Cal and Poly beats Chico, there will be 3 teams at 4-2. The WCLL is the MCLA's version of Thunderdome.

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:40 pm
by CPLaxGM
slider wrote:How does the WCLL tie-breaker work? If Stanford beats Cal and Poly beats Chico, there will be 3 teams at 4-2. The WCLL is the MCLA's version of Thunderdome.


It will come down to goal differential between the 3 teams.

Currently, here's where we stand:
Cal Poly: -4
Cal: +5
Stanford: -1

So if Stanford beats Cal, then Cal and Stanford will likely be the #2 and #3 seeds and we would be the #4 (unless Stanford won by 9 goals or more).

If Cal wins, then they will be the #2, CP will be #3, and Stanford would be #4. If Cal wins, we will be the #3 even if we lost to Chico, because we would own the head-to-head tiebreaker with Stanford.

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:41 pm
by WCLLPREZ
Sonoma has earned the number 1 seed:

There is potential for a 3 way tie for second, depending upon the games this weekend.

Here are the conference tie breaker rules:

a) most victories in head to head play
b) highest point differential in games (among) tied teams
c) highest point differential between (among) tied teams in games within the conference.
d) coin flip

Here are the scenarios:

Scenario 1) CP wins, Cal wins: Cal #2, CP #3, Stan #4
Scenario 2) CP wins, Cal loss by 2 or less: Cal #2, CP #3, Stan #4
Scenario 3) CP wins, Cal loss by 3, (go to TBc to break 2nd tie): Stan #2, Cal #3, CP #4
Scenario 4) CP wins, Cal loss by 4+: Stan #2, Cal #3, CP #4
Scenario 5) CP loss, CP #4, (#2/#3 determined by winner)

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:32 pm
by CPLaxGM
WCLLPREZ wrote:Sonoma has earned the number 1 seed:

There is potential for a 3 way tie for second, depending upon the games this weekend.

Here are the conference tie breaker rules:

a) most victories in head to head play
b) highest point differential in games (among) tied teams
c) highest point differential between (among) tied teams in games within the conference.
d) coin flip

Here are the scenarios:

Scenario 1) CP wins, Cal wins: Cal #2, CP #3, Stan #4
Scenario 2) CP wins, Cal loss by 2 or less: Cal #2, CP #3, Stan #4
Scenario 3) CP wins, Cal loss by 3, (go to TBc to break 2nd tie): Stan #2, Cal #3, CP #4
Scenario 4) CP wins, Cal loss by 4+: Stan #2, Cal #3, CP #4
Scenario 5) CP loss, CP #4, (#2/#3 determined by winner)


That doesn't look correct to me, Gary.

For instance, if Stanford loses they will be 3-3. If we lost to Chico, it would then be a two-way tie between us and Stanford at 3-3. So aren't we still the #3 seed due to head to head.

And according to my math, if Stanford wins, then we will be the #4 seed, except in the unlikely event that they beat Cal by 10 goals:
SU beats Cal by 10:
#2: SU +9
#3: CP -4
#4: Cal -5
Otherwise, if Stanford wins, then both Cal and Stanford will have better goal differential than we do.

clear as mud?

Re: Nike / IL MCLA Division I Poll - 04/23/2013

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:56 am
by LaxTV_Admin
Here is BullDodge's Bracketology

http://lax.tv/link/9431/