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MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:43 am
by LaxTV_Admin
1. Colorado State (23) 622
2. Arizona State (2) 592
3. BYU 570
4. Stanford 493
5. Colorado 475
6. Michigan State 465
7. UC Santa Barbara 447
8. Oregon 427
9. Chapman 418
10. Pittsburgh 385
11. Virginia Tech 379
12. SUNY-Buffalo 324
13. California 301
14. Boston College 298
15. Cal Poly
16. Texas 248
17. Sonoma State 227
18. Minnesota-Duluth 221
19. Connecticut 182
20. Simon Fraser 173
21. Northeastern 156
22. Florida State 88
23. Clemson 81
24. Arizona 61
25. Davenport 42

Others Receiving Votes
Georgia 30, Oregon State 27, Texas State 25, Chico State 22, Central Florida 12, UNLV 10, Utah 8, Grand Canyon 7, Southern Methodist 6, Purdue 3, Minnesota 3, Wisconsin 2, Georgia Tech 1, Texas Christian 1, Richmond 1, Santa Clara 1, Iowa 1

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:07 am
by Ravaging Beast
Looks pretty good to me for a poll in which half of the teams have yet to play a game yet, but what can you do. There are two glaring issues though. Texas got hosed. They crushed FSU who lost by a goal to BC. Based on that, I would expect Texas to be ahead of BC, but the voters clearly missed that one. Also think Oregon State should be in the top 25.

I think that after this weekend, everyone will have played at least one game. So we may get a better idea of where to place some of these teams.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:21 am
by LaxTV_Admin
Ravaging Beast wrote:Looks pretty good to me for a poll in which half of the teams have yet to play a game yet, but what can you do. There are two glaring issues though. Texas got hosed. They crushed FSU who lost by a goal to BC. Based on that, I would expect Texas to be ahead of BC, but the voters clearly missed that one. Also think Oregon State should be in the top 25.

I think that after this weekend, everyone will have played at least one game. So we may get a better idea of where to place some of these teams.


Agree about Texas. Voted them #10 based on the win. They will rise / fall based on the rest of their schedule.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:15 pm
by Ben Clark
Ravaging Beast wrote:Looks pretty good to me for a poll in which half of the teams have yet to play a game yet, but what can you do. There are two glaring issues though. Texas got hosed. They crushed FSU who lost by a goal to BC. Based on that, I would expect Texas to be ahead of BC, but the voters clearly missed that one. Also think Oregon State should be in the top 25.

I think that after this weekend, everyone will have played at least one game. So we may get a better idea of where to place some of these teams.


I voted BC above Texas, but not by much. My reasoning was that in BC's game against FSU, it was their first game of the season, and their first time being on a field outside. I'm sure some people get sick of hearing that argument, but it really can be a huge factor. Texas was playing in their fifth game, and has presumably been on a full field for quite a while. I can see why you take issue with it, but I wouldn't call it glaring. Luckily, this will all be settled in less than two weeks when BC goes to Texas.

I agree with you on Oregon State, and I had them in my poll, but I'm not really shocked that they didn't crack the top 25. It's that whole quality loss thing all over again.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:48 pm
by Ravaging Beast
I'm not saying FSU should be ahead of BC. I'm just saying Texas should be ahead of both of them until BC does something else. I guess I am hoping that the poll reflects how a team is currently doing, not what they did in the past or what their potential is.

Things are pretty clear cut right now. One team beat another, so they should be ahead of that team. We don't have those triangular things where team A beat team B who beat team C who beat team A. It's pretty straight forward at this point except for those teams that have not played yet.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:06 pm
by Chris Larson
Ravaging Beast wrote:Looks pretty good to me for a poll in which half of the teams have yet to play a game yet, but what can you do. There are two glaring issues though. Texas got hosed. They crushed FSU who lost by a goal to BC. Based on that, I would expect Texas to be ahead of BC, but the voters clearly missed that one.


Anti-LSA bias :wink:

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:13 pm
by LaxTV_Admin
Ben Clark wrote:I agree with you on Oregon State, and I had them in my poll, but I'm not really shocked that they didn't crack the top 25. It's that whole quality loss thing all over again.



I also had them in mine. They still get a chance to prove themselves with opportunities coming up this spring. If they are as good as we think, they will show us on the field.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:59 pm
by Ravaging Beast
Wow! Four people participating in a discussion. Reminds me of the good old days. Maybe we will have five people next week.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:12 pm
by Jac Coyne
I'd like to chime in more, but I refuse to participate until there is an "Obama's Birth Certificate" thread in the Water Cooler.

On a side note, this was a good ranking. Kudos to the pollsters.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:37 pm
by OAKS
Jac Coyne wrote:I'd like to chime in more, but I refuse to participate until there is an "Obama's Birth Certificate" thread in the Water Cooler.

On a side note, this was a good ranking. Kudos to the pollsters.


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Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:08 pm
by George Washington
Jac Coyne wrote:I'd like to chime in more, but I refuse to participate until there is an "Obama's Birth Certificate" thread in the Water Cooler.

On a side note, this was a good ranking. Kudos to the pollsters.


Jac,

That was hysterical! Thank you for the nostalgia and a good laugh.

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:58 pm
by Dan Wishengrad
I will admit my PNCLL bias upfront. But if Oregon and Chapman are both Top-10 teams (and I think they are) then SFU should be way higher than #20. Impressive wins over OSU and at then-ranked Chico, and a one-goal loss to the Ducks in Eugene, one of the tougher venues for visiting MCLA teams to play at. I'm not lobbying for the Clan to be Top-10 yet. But 19 better teams? Really?

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:07 am
by KenLovic
If they are worthy Dan they will climb. I think there are like 4-5 teams above them that have not even played yet. SFU has big games vs CSU, CU, MSU and VT upcoming. it will all shake out.
It's so early. I even saw a team on twitter excited about their laxpower ranking- after 3 games!- and i think fishing for a top 25 ranking. It's so early....

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:20 am
by Ravaging Beast
KenLovic wrote:If they are worthy Dan they will climb. I think there are like 4-5 teams above them that have not even played yet. SFU has big games vs CSU, CU, MSU and VT upcoming. it will all shake out.
It's so early. I even saw a team on twitter excited about their laxpower ranking- after 3 games!- and i think fishing for a top 25 ranking. It's so early....

Why are we doing polls when half of the teams have not played a game? Or why are teams allowed to start their seasons early to mid March?

Re: MCLA Nike / IL Division I Coach's Poll - 02/19/2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:11 pm
by George Washington
Ravaging Beast wrote: why are teams allowed to start their seasons early to mid March?


Because this is a less than ideal environment to play a lacrosse game in:

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(George Washington v. Pittsburgh, played at Washington & Jefferson University on 2/17/13)

:D