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1. St. Thomas - 525 (21)
2. Grand Valley State - 497
3. Westminster - 474
4. Dayton - 452
5. St. John's - 438
6(t). Briarcliffe College - 386
6(t). North Dakota State - 386
8. Concordia - 373
9. SCAD - 369
10. Elon - 311
11.Indiana Tech - 293
12. St. Mary's College - 247
13. US Coast Guard Academy - 223
14. Sam Houston State - 210
15. CSU-Fullerton - 195
16. Kennesaw State - 190
17. Washington University - STL - 182
18. Western Oregon - 174
19. Liberty University - 117
20. Fort Lewis - 90
21. Coastal Carolina - 75
22. Gonzaga - 70
23. Palm Beach Atlantic - 65
24. Missouri Baptist - 64
25. Western Washington - 52

Otheres receiving votes: Montana State (41), Florida Gulf Coast (35), Northern Colorado (28), Grove City (22), Stonehill (22), Missouri State (21), Houston (16), St. Andrew's (13), St. Edwards (12), Biola (12), Tennessee Wesleyan (11), Bethel (11), Appalachian State (10), Portland (9), Lindenwood-Bellville (7), Judson (6), UNC-Charlotte (5), Regis (4), Missouri S&T (3), Emory (3), Metropolitan (2), UC-Santa Cruz(1), Trinity(TX) (1)

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Tad bit pathetic that voters didn't know Hope College is playing in Division 3 of the NCAA this year.

Also, a few teams that received votes but didn't make the top 25 are a tad bit... suspect. Call it regional favoritism on both the voters and my part, I guess.

bsigmund90 wrote:Tad bit pathetic that voters didn't know Hope College is playing in Division 3 of the NCAA this year.

At least they think there are a number of MCLA teams better than a D3 team

Folks,

I apologize for this error. I should have caught this while tabulating the ballots from the Division 2 pollsters. A revised poll was just sent to the media outlets and they will be republished.

Gary Podesta
MCLA, VP of Competiton

WCLLPREZ wrote:Folks,

I apologize for this error. I should have caught this while tabulating the ballots from the Division 2 pollsters. A revised poll was just sent to the media outlets and they will be republished.

Gary Podesta
MCLA, VP of Competiton

No problem Gary. Thanks for being on top of it and getting us a revised poll so quickly.

Well its certainly a preseason poll...

48 teams received votes! How does that happen. Here's how you instantly improve the poll. Remove any and all voters who gave votes to Houston, St. Eds, Bethel, UNC Charlotte, Regis, Missouri S&T, Emory and Trinity. Clearly people who voted for any of these teams have little to no understanding of the MCLA.

Another way to improve the poll, if you are going to have 27 pollsters get more than 21 of them to turn in there votes. At this point I would say get rid of the six who couldn't even make the first deadline. What happens when a different 21 pollsters show up next time and a different regional bias kicks in? Speaking of regional bias did only one PNCLL coach/team really want to participate? From what I can tell every division got three spots but only the NW and the SELC could not fill the spots.

Despite all this, the top 25 is not half bad. I mean its basically last years final poll minus the teams that moved on and three new teams plugged in at the bottom. I just get the feeling that I'm in for a long year as a fan...

C2Films wrote:Well its certainly a preseason poll...

48 teams received votes! How does that happen. Here's how you instantly improve the poll. Remove any and all voters who gave votes to Houston, St. Eds, Bethel, UNC Charlotte, Regis, Missouri S&T, Emory and Trinity. Clearly people who voted for any of these teams have little to no understanding of the MCLA.

Another way to improve the poll, if you are going to have 27 pollsters get more than 21 of them to turn in there votes. At this point I would say get rid of the six who couldn't even make the first deadline. What happens when a different 21 pollsters show up next time and a different regional bias kicks in? Speaking of regional bias did only one PNCLL coach/team really want to participate? From what I can tell every division got three spots but only the NW and the SELC could not fill the spots.

Despite all this, the top 25 is not half bad. I mean its basically last years final poll minus the teams that moved on and three new teams plugged in at the bottom. I just get the feeling that I'm in for a long year as a fan...

Let's take a look at the In-Division Regular Season Records with playoffs...

Montana State (41) - 6-3 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Florida Gulf Coast (35) - 4-2 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Northern Colorado (28) - 6-6 (1 cancelled game) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Grove City (22) - 7-5; 0-1 conference playoffs
Stonehill (22) - 7-3; 0-1 conference playoffs
Missouri State (21) - 4-4 (2 cancelled games) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Houston (16) - New to MCLA
St. Andrew's (13) - New to MCLA
St. Edwards (12) - 4-2 (1 cancelled game) ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Biola (12) - 8-2 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Tennessee Wesleyan (11) - 5-4 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Bethel (11) - 2-4 (1 cancelled game) ; 1-1 conference playoffs [1 playoff forfeit]
Appalachian State (10) - 4-3 ; missed playoffs
Portland (9) - 6-5 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Lindenwood-Bellville (7) - 1-3 (2 cancelled games) ; missed playoffs
Judson (6) - 7-5 (1 cancelled game) ; missed playoffs
UNC-Charlotte (5) - 0-6 (2 cancelled games) ; missed playoffs
Regis (4) - 4-10 ; missed playoffs
Missouri S&T (3) - 1-5 (1 cancelled game) ; missed playoffs
Emory (3) - 0-8 ; missed playoffs
Metropolitan (2) - 4-6; 0-1 conference playoffs
UC-Santa Cruz(1) - 6-5; 1-1 conference playoffs
Trinity(TX) (1) - 0-2 (3 cancelled games, 3 forfeits) ; missed playoffs

Let's take it a step further (slow work day...)

1. St. Thomas (525, 21) - 11-1 ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 4-0 national tournament
2. Grand Valley State (497) - 12-1 ; 3-0 conference playoffs ; 3-1 national tournament
3. Westminster (474) - 10-1 ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 1-1 national tournament
4. Dayton (452) - 9-2 ; 2-1 conference playoffs ; 2-1 national tournament
5. St. John's (438) - 9-2 ; 0-1 conference playoffs ; 1-1 national tournament
6(t). Briarcliffe College (386) - 9-3 ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
6(t). North Dakota State (386) - 8-3 ; 1-1 conference playoffs ; 1-1 national tournament
8. Concordia (373) - 14-3 ; 0-1 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
9. SCAD (369) - 9-2 ; missed conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
10. Elon (311) - 9-3 ; 3-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
11.Indiana Tech (293) - 7-7 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
12. St. Mary's College (247) - 14-2 ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
13. US Coast Guard Academy (223) - 9-4 ; 2-1 conference playoffs ;
14. Sam Houston State (210) - 8-1 ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
15. CSU-Fullerton (195) - 13-2 ; 2-1 conference playoffs
16. Kennesaw State (190) - 6-2 (1 cancelled game) ; 2-1 conference playoffs
17. Washington University-STL (182) - 9-2 (1 cancelled game) ; 2-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
18. Western Oregon (174) - 3-7 ; 3-0 conference playoffs ; 0-1 national tournament
19. Liberty University (117) - 7-2 (2 cancelled games) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
20. Fort Lewis (90) - 7-3 ; 2-1 conference playoffs
21. Coastal Carolina (75) - 8-0 (1 cancelled game) ; 0-1 conference playoffs
22. Gonzaga (70) - 8-0 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
23. Palm Beach Atlantic (65) - 3-4 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
24. Missouri Baptist (64) - 7-5 (1 cancelled game) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
25. Western Washington (52) - 11-5 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Montana State (41) - 6-3 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Florida Gulf Coast (35) - 4-2 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Northern Colorado (28) - 6-6 (1 cancelled game) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Grove City (22) - 7-5; 0-1 conference playoffs
Stonehill (22) - 7-3; 0-1 conference playoffs
Missouri State (21) - 4-4 (2 cancelled games) ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Houston (16) - New to MCLA
St. Andrew's (13) - New to MCLA
St. Edwards (12) - 4-2 (1 cancelled game) ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Biola (12) - 8-2 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Tennessee Wesleyan (11) - 5-4 ; 0-1 conference playoffs
Bethel (11) - 2-4 (1 cancelled game) ; 1-1 conference playoffs [1 playoff forfeit]
Appalachian State (10) - 4-3 ; missed playoffs
Portland (9) - 6-5 ; 1-1 conference playoffs
Lindenwood-Bellville (7) - 1-3 (2 cancelled games) ; missed playoffs
Judson (6) - 7-5 (1 cancelled game) ; missed playoffs
UNC-Charlotte (5) - 0-6 (2 cancelled games) ; missed playoffs
Regis (4) - 4-10 ; missed playoffs
Missouri S&T (3) - 1-5 (1 cancelled game) ; missed playoffs
Emory (3) - 0-8 ; missed playoffs
Metropolitan (2) - 4-6; 0-1 conference playoffs
UC-Santa Cruz (1) - 6-5; 1-1 conference playoffs
Trinity(TX) (1) - 0-2 (3 cancelled games, 3 forfeits) ; missed playoffs

slow work day indeed

really interesting info when it's all on one page