3/5/08 LaxWorld MCLA Top 25 Division 2 Poll Is Out!

[Dan Wishengrad]

LINK:

http://www.collegelax.us/news/2008/03/0 ... poll-3508/

Let me get this started, Sonny might actually have some "real-job" responsibilities today...

[Andy Sharp]

Here are the big movers from the last poll. The first number is the change in points (each voter ranks their top 25 with #1 getting 25 points, #2 getting 24 points . . . the teams below #25 are based on points received), whether they went up or down, their new ranking followed by their old ranking (#NR means not ranked), and the team name.

Some interesting moves can be found within the numbers.

116 More - #20 from #31 - Puget Sound
86 Less - #28 from #22 - Augustana
76 More - #14 from #18 - Creighton
71 Less - #12 from #10 - Harding
69 Less - #29 from #24 - Southern Oregon
65 More - #08 from #11 - North Carolina - Charlotte
63 More - #13 from #15 - Western Washington
63 Less - #23 from #21 - DePaul
51 More - #11 from #12 - Southwestern
44 More - #06 from #07 - Fort Lewis
43 More - #25 from #41 - Colorado School of Mines
40 Less - #16 from #13 - Carnegie Mellon
40 Less - #31 from #26 - Pacific Lutheran
37 Less - #NR from #29 - St. Edward's
31 More - #19 from #19 - Elon
25 Less - #22 from #20 - Northern Arizona
23 Less - #10 from #09 - Savannah College AD
22 More - #21 from #23 - Central Washington
22 Less - #45 from #32 - Eckerd
20 More - #05 from #05 - Emory
17 More - #04 from #04 - Dayton
17 More - #33 from #46 - Dordt
17 More - #34 from #NR - California - Santa Cruz
17 More - #34 from #NR - Davidson
16 Less - #31 from #30 - Framingham State
16 Less - #41 from #32 - St. Louis
16 Less - #NR from #37 - Ferris State
16 Less - #NR from #37 - Washington of Missouri
15 More - #01 from #01 - Westminster
15 Less - #27 from #27 - Wisconsin - Eau Claire
15 Less - #43 from #34 - New Haven
14 Less - #09 from #08 - Northern Colorado
14 Less - #24 from #25 - Pepperdine
14 More - #36 from #NR - Trinity
12 More - #37 from #46 - Whitman
12 Less - #42 from #35 - Northern Michigan
10 More - #39 from #NR - Sam Houston State
09 More - #30 from #39 - US Coast Guard
09 Less - #40 from #35 - Biola
06 Less - #03 from #03 - St. Thomas
06 Less - #26 from #28 - Coastal Carolina
05 Less - #NR from #42 - Bridgewater State
05 Less - #NR from #42 - Taylor
04 Less - #17 from #16 - Grand Valley State
04 Less - #18 from #17 - Western Oregon
04 Less - #NR from #44 - Minnesota State - Moorhead
03 Less - #02 from #02 - St. John's - MN
03 More - #44 from #NR - Lewis & Clark
03 Less - #NR from #45 - Metropolitan State
02 Less - #07 from #06 - Utah Valley State
02 More - #45 from #NR - Augsburg
01 Less - #NR from #46 - Appalachian State
01 Less - #NR from #46 - CSU - Fullerton
01 Less - #NR from #46 - Furman
00 Same - #15 from #14 - Montana State
00 Same - #38 from #40 - Hope

I would be interested to hear people's arguments for or against these moves.

PS: my change was to add Trinity, they slipped by earlier. The math adds up, there are 8450 points total with 26 voters each giving out 325 points.

[seulax10]

I don't agree with St. Edward's dropping from #29 to completely off the radar.

I'm not going to argue, because it'd probably be a biased argument. Although, there is a team we beat 22-0 that managed to squeak into the top 40.

[Dan Wishengrad]

The vote -- or votes -- for Lewis & Clark must have been meant for PLU, which I'm guessing is listed just below L&C on the voter's alphabetical pull-down menu. With due respect and no offense intended to the Pios, this team surely does not deserve national Top 25 consideration, having won only one game since 2006.

All voters need to be careful and to confirm their ballot before hitting the "submit" button!

[Andy Sharp]

Some of the more interesting shifts are of the #NR kind, both into and out of the poll.

Here's another way to look at the Top 25 only:
15 More - #01 from #01 - Westminster
03 Less - #02 from #02 - St. John's - MN
06 Less - #03 from #03 - St. Thomas
17 More - #04 from #04 - Dayton
20 More - #05 from #05 - Emory
44 More - #06 from #07 - Fort Lewis
02 Less - #07 from #06 - Utah Valley State
65 More - #08 from #11 - North Carolina - Charlotte
14 Less - #09 from #08 - Northern Colorado
23 Less - #10 from #09 - Savannah College AD
51 More - #11 from #12 - Southwestern
71 Less - #12 from #10 - Harding
63 More - #13 from #15 - Western Washington
76 More - #14 from #18 - Creighton
00 Same - #15 from #14 - Montana State
40 Less - #16 from #13 - Carnegie Mellon
04 Less - #17 from #16 - Grand Valley State
04 Less - #18 from #17 - Western Oregon
31 More - #19 from #19 - Elon
116 More - #20 from #31 - Puget Sound
22 More - #21 from #23 - Central Washington
25 Less - #22 from #20 - Northern Arizona
63 Less - #23 from #21 - DePaul
14 Less - #24 from #25 - Pepperdine
43 More - #25 from #41 - Colorado School of Mines

Fun stuff, but I was an Econ major.

[scooter]

These polls just go to show how incredibly important it is to play quality OOC games earlier in the season. A few teams who have yet to play have been dropping like flies in the last two polls. There are few teams on there who are either A.) undefeated or B.) have yet to play, who are losing points at an incredible rate

[bulax6]

I agree with the St. Edwards argument....the only team they've lost to this year was the number 1 team in the nation. And Sam Houston getting 10 points after getting beat twice by a combined score of 47-3 since the last poll? Ridiculous.

[Rob Graff]

Andy:

Fun stuff for sure - but I think it is disingenuous to merely say "interesting moves" after posting that much data.

If you have a specific thought, I'd be interested in you sharing it - either here or in a PM to the voters.

Rob

[Hi-Line Lax]

I think the numbers are "interesting" as well... its just another way to look at the polling. You can take whatever you want from it.

[Andy Sharp]

It's just a fun way to look at the poll, nothing earth shattering:

teams moving in poll without changing in points (Montana State)
teams dropping out and joining in (too many to cite)
teams that don't belong (L & C)
teams moving without doing anything significant (too many to cite)

All things others have pointed out in past.

[Kyle Berggren]

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited that we jumped into the poll so with so many points, & I'm excited to see where this thing shakes out. I'm not polling this year, but I am looking at teams records & opponents. Some teams strike me as way over-ranked, other shock me for being so low. End result, it's still really early, hard to argue with much of anything. A game or two could push a lot of teams around.

[DRich17]

Hows Harding looking this year? We always seem to have a pretty big DI/DII rivalry between us and I heard they lost some experience this year. From the poll It looks like they've made up for it. Anyone know?

[DwinsChamps]

...no love for Eau Claire?