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Postby Tim Gray on Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:49 pm

I think that BC-FSU-GA-VT-Utah-Colorado-UCSB all seem to be fighting for those 10-16 slots, and no one has really made a case to be at the head of that class
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Postby UkraineNotWeak on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:16 pm

What happens to Oregon?


Hopefully it falls into the Pacific.
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Postby EvanFSU on Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:59 pm

I think that BC-FSU-GA-VT-Utah-Colorado-UCSB all seem to be fighting for those 10-16 slots, and no one has really made a case to be at the head of that class
I put those teams along with Oregon, ASU, Simon Frasier, Duluth and Sonoma in the same category. I honestly think teams 4-12 are a crapshoot as none of those teams have really done anything to differentiate from one another. CSU and BYU are slightly ahead with Michigan and Chapman standing out.
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Postby nhoskins on Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:17 pm

EvanFSU wrote:
I think that BC-FSU-GA-VT-Utah-Colorado-UCSB all seem to be fighting for those 10-16 slots, and no one has really made a case to be at the head of that class
I put those teams along with Oregon, ASU, Simon Frasier, Duluth and Sonoma in the same category. I honestly think teams 4-12 are a crapshoot as none of those teams have really done anything to differentiate from one another. CSU and BYU are slightly ahead with Michigan and Chapman standing out.


I don't know how you see CSU and BYU as slightly ahead with losses to SSU/Utah (unranked) and UMD, respectively.

And there's a big difference between teams like Oregon, Simon FRASER, Duluth, Sonoma, and ASU who have not lost to teams outside the top 10 and those 10-16 teams that have.

But I guess if you're going to lump 4-10 with 11-16 without considering who they have lost to or beaten, then you should probably just lump 2-16 together and leave Chapman and Michigan outfront.
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Postby Highheat on Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:14 am

UkraineNotWeak wrote:
What happens to Oregon?


Hopefully it falls into the Pacific.


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Postby Mr. Jefferson on Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:24 pm

EvanFSU wrote:
I think that BC-FSU-GA-VT-Utah-Colorado-UCSB all seem to be fighting for those 10-16 slots, and no one has really made a case to be at the head of that class
I put those teams along with Oregon, ASU, Simon Frasier, Duluth and Sonoma in the same category. I honestly think teams 4-12 are a crapshoot as none of those teams have really done anything to differentiate from one another. CSU and BYU are slightly ahead with Michigan and Chapman standing out.


Except Duluth beat BYU, and there only losses are to #1 Michigan, and a loss to CSU when they were #3 at the time, to me they are right below Michigan, and Chapman.....

wow, double check next time huh???
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Postby Tom on Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:41 am

It seems to me that when teams are playing games on spring break there are some poll voters that have difficulty posting their votes after all the games have been played that day (when the votes are due). Would it make sense to have the deadline during the day so when the poll voters send in their votes it includes all the games. It doesn't make sense to send in your votes when you can't do it based on all the games played in those 2 weeks. If you make the deadline 1pm East Coast time then the earliest deadline would be on the west coast at 10am. This way you can include all the games and the polls would be much more accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong but the polls have a lot to do with the seedings in the MCLA Tournament. If poll voters aren't including every game during the season it could make a significant impact on seedings. Not sure if this is possible but I would love to hear what people have to say.

Big game this week with Simon Fraser playing Oregon.

Another thing I would like to add is that I think you'll see a lot of teams jump around in the next poll from the 4-12 spots.
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Postby LaxC21 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:50 pm

I think (because of the league) everyone is leaving Texas A&M out of the 10-16 discussion. It's unfortunate that Texas A&M had the ugly loss to Lindenwood, but given the way it played against Simon Frasier and it's performance out west, they deserve to be in the discussion. I wouldn't put them 10, but I wouldn't have them at 17 either. Had they started the season at 10 or 12 (and this goes to the argument of having preseason rankings or not) they wouldn't be sitting out 17 at this point. Sonoma State and Simon Frasier have obviously been better than most expected and those loses do not seem as bad as they did at the time. To me it would be unfortunate to see A&M grab the 16th seed in the tournament for the second year given how well they played BYU in the first round and the performance they had during the rest of the tournament. This year's team is better than last year's, and I expect them to put up a decent fight in the tournament, but reality says their not beating number 1.
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Postby 1one on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:57 pm

Texas A&M should be grateful for their 17th ranking. Yes they lost by 3 or 4 goals to SSU and SFU but they haven't even had a win in the top 25...
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Postby CATLAX MAN on Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:06 pm

1one wrote:Texas A&M should be grateful for their 17th ranking. Yes they lost by 3 or 4 goals to SSU and SFU but they haven't even had a win in the top 25...


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Postby Tom on Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:04 am

There will always be preseason rankings. What coaches need to do is put a couple top 20 teams on their schedule. This way they have a chance to move up in the rankings. Texas A&M has played 2 teams in the top 10 and they lost. That's the bottom line. They lost. It shouldn't matter how well you play a team. A loss is a loss. Just like a win is a win. It doesn't matter by how much. Look at Maryland. They beat the #1 team in D1 by 6 goals and their at #3 in the country. I think more teams need to have a stronger strength of schedule. Obviously, it helps being at the top of the preseason poll.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:05 am

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Re: welll letse

Postby Danny Hogan on Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:11 am

Tim Gray wrote:I think that BC-FSU-GA-VT-Utah-Colorado-UCSB all seem to be fighting for those 10-16 slots, and no one has really made a case to be at the head of that class


i dont' think Utah is quite in that conversation yet. Their last two wins are incredible....so are some of their losses though. If they pick up a win against BYU or in the first round of the RMLC tourney i'de put them in though...
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Postby LaxC21 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:27 am

Be grateful for 17? Who would you put in front of them? Loyola, Arizona, UCF? Would you say the same thing about CalPoly who hasn't beaten anybody in the top 25 (unless you count Utah who should be in the top 25)...or is that okay since they are WCLL. The argument was about A&M being in the mix of that 10-16 group that seem to beating up on each other...simple as that.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:03 am

i would unbiasly (seriously) put Florida and VT ahead of them.
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