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honestly i wouldn't complain. we don't get any help financially from the school once-so-ever, and we have to travel at least 8 hours to get to almost all of our away games (in conference or out).
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TheRev34 wrote:honestly i wouldn't complain. we don't get any help financially from the school once-so-ever, and we have to travel at least 8 hours to get to almost all of our away games (in conference or out).
Yeah, I know you guys are in an awful situation. I in no way am trying to compare our situation to yours. I even said we were fortunate in terms of our IN conference games.
Again, 4 OOC games, which is what the post I replied to said should be the limit, is a little excessive in terms of what it would add to our annual costs.
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UNC Charlotte Men's Lacrosse
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To help lighten the mood, the Ecto Cooler was stellar.....
88 Ways To Tell If You Are Stuck In The 1980's
* 1. Your fondest childhood memory is when Skippy got his head stuck in the banister.
* 2. You relax by putting on your legwarmers and dancing to the "Footloose" soundtrack.
* 3. You think the Two Coreys are "totally awesome."
* 4. You're still bitter that Wham! broke up.
* 5. Punky Brewster is your hero.
* 6. You type all of your term papers on a Commodore 64.
* 7. You still resent your parents for not installing a dumbwaiter in your house like Webster's.
* 8. The only video games you play are Frogger and Pac Man.
* 9. You're building your own Clockwork Smurf.
* 10. Your summer attire is Jellies and Jams.
* 11. A-Ha's "Take on Me" is still your favorite video.
* 12. You consider yourself truly, truly, truly outrageous, much like Jem and the Holograms.
* 13. You wonder why more people don't wear high heels, Jordache jeans, and lacy ankle socks.
* 14. You call all motorcycle cops "Ponch."
* 15. Every time you go to the beach you look for Snorks.
* 16. You're still upset Madonna and Sean broke up.
* 17. You know who Stinky Sullivan is.
* 18. You work out with "Get in Shape Girl."
* 19. You want to be Molly Ringwald when you grow up.
* 20. You enjoy dancing on the ceiling and wearing your sunglasses at night.
* 21. You know who Loverboy is.
* 22. You think there should be a Kids Incorporated original cast reunion
* 23. You think of Janet Jackson as "that girl who used to date Willis."
* 24. You can sing the theme song to Small Wonder.
* 25. Every time you see a fountain you want to dance around it and yell "Fame!"
* 26. You still have a shoebox full of Garbage Pail Kid cards.
* 27. you write your congressman asking him to introduce a bill to make "Born in the USA" the national anthem.
* 28. You still use your Snoopy Sno-Cone machine.
* 29. You know it's not "comma, comma, comma" it's karma.
* 30. You stay up nights wondering what Bastian's mother's name was in "The Never Ending Story."
* 31. You have nightmares about the Peculiar Purple Pieman of Porcupine Peak.
* 32. You still practice your Care Bear Stare.
* 33. You know that girls just wanna have fuh-un.
* 34. You can name all The Wuzzles.
* 35. You harbor a secret dream of being slimed by Alistair.
* 36. You can do the Safety Dance.
* 37. In your spare time you are writing "The Breakfast Club 2."
* 38. You like to "connect the dots, la la la la!"
* 39. Someone metions Jennifer Beals and you don't say "Who?"
* 40. Your prized possesion is a collection of "Return of the Jedi" Shrinky Dinks.
* 41. You know whose number is 867-5309.
* 42. You get depressed thinking about Anthony Michael Hall's career.
* 43. You're starting a write-in campaign to MTV to bring back Remote Control.
* 44. You drink Diet Coke because Max Headroom told you to.
* 45. You consider Jo vs. Blair the major philosophical conflict of the 20th century.
* 46. You have a duck phone and ride around your house on a little train.
* 47. You want to be one of the Solid Gold Dancers.
* 48. You still watch things on Beta.
* 49. You want to change your name to Rio and dance on the sand.
* 50. You know that "Weird Science" was a movie before a tv show.
* 51. Your favorite proverb is "some like it hot and some sweat when the heat is on."
* 52. You always waited for the Sweet Pickles Bus to visit your house.
* 53. Your favorite party game is Hungry Hungry Hippos.
* 54. You saw the New Kids on the Block when they were Tiffany's opening act.
* 55. You liked Tom Hanks better when he was a crossdresser.
* 56. You know which Hollywood Square Jm J Bullock was in.
* 57. You practice getting in and out of your car through the windows.
* 58. You have the tendency to turn up the collar of your polo shirts.
* 59. You're still wondering who really was the boss.
* 60. You know what the "P" in "Alex P. Keaton" stands for.
* 61. You keep asking your teachers if instead of the quiz you can take the physical challenge.
* 62. You organize weekend tournaments of TV tag.
* 63. You still drink New Coke.
* 64. When you watch "Terminator 2" you wonder where Vincent is.
* 65. You know ALF's real name.
* 66. You never go out for a night on the town without frosted blue eyeshadow and feathered bangs.
* 67. You can name all of the Thundercats.
* 68. You got a hankerin' for a hunk of cheese.
* 69. Everything in your wardrobe is either pastel or fluorescent.
* 70. Your musical inspiration is Sonny Mann.
* 71. Sometimes you just want to shout, shout, let it all out.
* 72. You're planning a dream vacation to Mepos.
* 73. You use your Speak and Spell to phone home.
* 74. You know the original members of Menudo.
* 75. Sometimes out of the blue you just got to shake your love.
* 76. When you're stuck in traffic you tell your car to engage Turbo Boost and are surprised when it doesn't talk back.
* 77. You remember when Vanessa sang Kareoke to "Locomotion."
* 78. You know that Mr. Steele functions best in an advisory capacity.
* 79. People are constantly gagging you with spoons.
* 80. Your idea of appreciating ancient cultures is "Walk Like an Egyptian."
* 81. The only thing you know about the Nazis is that they threw Indy to the snakes.
* 82. You still use your hair crimper before going out on a hot date.
* 83. You hatch plots to break Murdock out of VA hospital.
* 84. You know which five people Serpentor's DNA came from.
* 85. You have "We Are the World" on 45.
* 86. You're still sending death threats to Mr. Rubik.
* 87. You can feel St. Elmo's fire burnin' in you.
* 88. You watch NYPD Blue thinking, "Well, they're no Crockett and Tubbs,that's for sure."
88 Ways To Tell If You Are Stuck In The 1980's
* 1. Your fondest childhood memory is when Skippy got his head stuck in the banister.
* 2. You relax by putting on your legwarmers and dancing to the "Footloose" soundtrack.
* 3. You think the Two Coreys are "totally awesome."
* 4. You're still bitter that Wham! broke up.
* 5. Punky Brewster is your hero.
* 6. You type all of your term papers on a Commodore 64.
* 7. You still resent your parents for not installing a dumbwaiter in your house like Webster's.
* 8. The only video games you play are Frogger and Pac Man.
* 9. You're building your own Clockwork Smurf.
* 10. Your summer attire is Jellies and Jams.
* 11. A-Ha's "Take on Me" is still your favorite video.
* 12. You consider yourself truly, truly, truly outrageous, much like Jem and the Holograms.
* 13. You wonder why more people don't wear high heels, Jordache jeans, and lacy ankle socks.
* 14. You call all motorcycle cops "Ponch."
* 15. Every time you go to the beach you look for Snorks.
* 16. You're still upset Madonna and Sean broke up.
* 17. You know who Stinky Sullivan is.
* 18. You work out with "Get in Shape Girl."
* 19. You want to be Molly Ringwald when you grow up.
* 20. You enjoy dancing on the ceiling and wearing your sunglasses at night.
* 21. You know who Loverboy is.
* 22. You think there should be a Kids Incorporated original cast reunion
* 23. You think of Janet Jackson as "that girl who used to date Willis."
* 24. You can sing the theme song to Small Wonder.
* 25. Every time you see a fountain you want to dance around it and yell "Fame!"
* 26. You still have a shoebox full of Garbage Pail Kid cards.
* 27. you write your congressman asking him to introduce a bill to make "Born in the USA" the national anthem.
* 28. You still use your Snoopy Sno-Cone machine.
* 29. You know it's not "comma, comma, comma" it's karma.
* 30. You stay up nights wondering what Bastian's mother's name was in "The Never Ending Story."
* 31. You have nightmares about the Peculiar Purple Pieman of Porcupine Peak.
* 32. You still practice your Care Bear Stare.
* 33. You know that girls just wanna have fuh-un.
* 34. You can name all The Wuzzles.
* 35. You harbor a secret dream of being slimed by Alistair.
* 36. You can do the Safety Dance.
* 37. In your spare time you are writing "The Breakfast Club 2."
* 38. You like to "connect the dots, la la la la!"
* 39. Someone metions Jennifer Beals and you don't say "Who?"
* 40. Your prized possesion is a collection of "Return of the Jedi" Shrinky Dinks.
* 41. You know whose number is 867-5309.
* 42. You get depressed thinking about Anthony Michael Hall's career.
* 43. You're starting a write-in campaign to MTV to bring back Remote Control.
* 44. You drink Diet Coke because Max Headroom told you to.
* 45. You consider Jo vs. Blair the major philosophical conflict of the 20th century.
* 46. You have a duck phone and ride around your house on a little train.
* 47. You want to be one of the Solid Gold Dancers.
* 48. You still watch things on Beta.
* 49. You want to change your name to Rio and dance on the sand.
* 50. You know that "Weird Science" was a movie before a tv show.
* 51. Your favorite proverb is "some like it hot and some sweat when the heat is on."
* 52. You always waited for the Sweet Pickles Bus to visit your house.
* 53. Your favorite party game is Hungry Hungry Hippos.
* 54. You saw the New Kids on the Block when they were Tiffany's opening act.
* 55. You liked Tom Hanks better when he was a crossdresser.
* 56. You know which Hollywood Square Jm J Bullock was in.
* 57. You practice getting in and out of your car through the windows.
* 58. You have the tendency to turn up the collar of your polo shirts.
* 59. You're still wondering who really was the boss.
* 60. You know what the "P" in "Alex P. Keaton" stands for.
* 61. You keep asking your teachers if instead of the quiz you can take the physical challenge.
* 62. You organize weekend tournaments of TV tag.
* 63. You still drink New Coke.
* 64. When you watch "Terminator 2" you wonder where Vincent is.
* 65. You know ALF's real name.
* 66. You never go out for a night on the town without frosted blue eyeshadow and feathered bangs.
* 67. You can name all of the Thundercats.
* 68. You got a hankerin' for a hunk of cheese.
* 69. Everything in your wardrobe is either pastel or fluorescent.
* 70. Your musical inspiration is Sonny Mann.
* 71. Sometimes you just want to shout, shout, let it all out.
* 72. You're planning a dream vacation to Mepos.
* 73. You use your Speak and Spell to phone home.
* 74. You know the original members of Menudo.
* 75. Sometimes out of the blue you just got to shake your love.
* 76. When you're stuck in traffic you tell your car to engage Turbo Boost and are surprised when it doesn't talk back.
* 77. You remember when Vanessa sang Kareoke to "Locomotion."
* 78. You know that Mr. Steele functions best in an advisory capacity.
* 79. People are constantly gagging you with spoons.
* 80. Your idea of appreciating ancient cultures is "Walk Like an Egyptian."
* 81. The only thing you know about the Nazis is that they threw Indy to the snakes.
* 82. You still use your hair crimper before going out on a hot date.
* 83. You hatch plots to break Murdock out of VA hospital.
* 84. You know which five people Serpentor's DNA came from.
* 85. You have "We Are the World" on 45.
* 86. You're still sending death threats to Mr. Rubik.
* 87. You can feel St. Elmo's fire burnin' in you.
* 88. You watch NYPD Blue thinking, "Well, they're no Crockett and Tubbs,that's for sure."
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The_Buddha_Man wrote:* 11. A-Ha's "Take on Me" is still your favorite video.
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UNC Charlotte Men's Lacrosse
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With the high rankings of the SELC right now, Elon, Emory, UNCC, SCAD etc etc...now might be a good time to get in talks about some weekend events where a team can fly in and play 2-3 OOC games. St Thomas came down and got 3 games out of the deal. One against Emory, UNCC and Kennesaw State. More of this would be good...and possibly entice other teams in other conferences to do the same. Things like that are a lot of fun.
There's plenty of facilities in Atlanta and tons of HS' that would be willing to host as fund raisers for their teams.
There's plenty of facilities in Atlanta and tons of HS' that would be willing to host as fund raisers for their teams.
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Beta wrote:With the high rankings of the SELC right now, Elon, Emory, UNCC, SCAD etc etc...now might be a good time to get in talks about some weekend events where a team can fly in and play 2-3 OOC games. St Thomas came down and got 3 games out of the deal. One against Emory, UNCC and Kennesaw State. More of this would be good...and possibly entice other teams in other conferences to do the same. Things like that are a lot of fun.
There's plenty of facilities in Atlanta and tons of HS' that would be willing to host as fund raisers for their teams.
Well make with the contacts Mr. Atlanta Local.
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UNC Charlotte Men's Lacrosse
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Most teams in Div II get little to no money from their school. I was in the same boat when I played and coached, but eventually we moved on from complaining to going out and finding solid ways to earn cash. The majority of the money that funds the strong squads in the MCLA is earned by the players. Most teams probably have 20-40 guys who if they devote a little time can all earn and fund what should be the best experience of their college years.
As someone who wants to see the MCLA Div II flourish, I would be more then happy to consult any team that wants to reach out to me. I promise you will walk away with an action plan that will work. Just shoot me a PM.
As someone who wants to see the MCLA Div II flourish, I would be more then happy to consult any team that wants to reach out to me. I promise you will walk away with an action plan that will work. Just shoot me a PM.
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NinerCoach wrote:TheRev34 wrote:honestly i wouldn't complain. we don't get any help financially from the school once-so-ever, and we have to travel at least 8 hours to get to almost all of our away games (in conference or out).
Yeah, I know you guys are in an awful situation. I in no way am trying to compare our situation to yours. I even said we were fortunate in terms of our IN conference games.
Again, 4 OOC games, which is what the post I replied to said should be the limit, is a little excessive in terms of what it would add to our annual costs.
haha sorry i came off so defensive.
i think the only way to get in more ooc games without making the cost too much is to try and have teams coordinate with each other to have a tournament each year (not an necessarily an actual tournament, but 2-3 teams from one conference play 2-3 teams from another conference), likely it would have to be a spring break trip. But if it was planned out well enough all of those teams could get in 2 or 3 ooc games in one weekend and then maybe one or two other regularly scheduled ooc games throughout the year.
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I wasn't implying that 4 OOC games should be a requirment. However, like everything else in life, if you only meet the minimum requirement, then you should expect the minimum positive results for your effort. If D2 top tier teams start going above and beyond the requirements of the national board, then they will respond positively to the collective efforts of the teams. And perhaps, a 16 team tournament would develop.
As far as budgeting, be smart w/ your funds. When some schools travel, they make arrangements w/ churches and other organizations for a place to stay. This saves on the costs of hotels. Even try reaching out to alumni and groups they are involved in to find places to stay. You could also save money by using camp sites, the fee is normally really cheap. No teams want to do this, but raise your dues. It will cause players to be more committed to the team w/ the larger investment anyway.
As for scheduling, teams should have started trying to make their schedules for next year, or at least have an idea of which teams they would like to schedule. So start tryng to develop ways to make it happen, whether its a tournement or not.
As far as budgeting, be smart w/ your funds. When some schools travel, they make arrangements w/ churches and other organizations for a place to stay. This saves on the costs of hotels. Even try reaching out to alumni and groups they are involved in to find places to stay. You could also save money by using camp sites, the fee is normally really cheap. No teams want to do this, but raise your dues. It will cause players to be more committed to the team w/ the larger investment anyway.
As for scheduling, teams should have started trying to make their schedules for next year, or at least have an idea of which teams they would like to schedule. So start tryng to develop ways to make it happen, whether its a tournement or not.
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We have found that a gradual rise in dues has not scared off many players. When i first came to GVSU the dues were around $200 and now they are around $650 and we have more players now than we had when i first came, quality players i must add. Dont go from $200 to $1000 in one year.
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I just wanted to throw out there some of the troubles we had as a first year team while we're on that note.
A) The college doesn't provide us with a field so we have to rent one on an hourly basis. Fortunately, Dick's Sporting Goods Park has been good to us and kept it under $90/practice.
B) We had FOUR OOC games canceled on us after attempting to schedule five. Graciously, Creighton came out to our place but we were left one shy. Missouri S&T was nice enough to throw us a bone when trying to find an OOC game in April.
To clarify, we are a first year team and put team and conference wellbeing ahead of degree of difficulty this season. There could have been some more reliable teams, but we thought staying close to home and calling up some GRLC teams would be the way to go. After hearing the conesequences some young DII squads have brought upon their conference, we knew we didn't want to screw up.
A) The college doesn't provide us with a field so we have to rent one on an hourly basis. Fortunately, Dick's Sporting Goods Park has been good to us and kept it under $90/practice.
B) We had FOUR OOC games canceled on us after attempting to schedule five. Graciously, Creighton came out to our place but we were left one shy. Missouri S&T was nice enough to throw us a bone when trying to find an OOC game in April.
To clarify, we are a first year team and put team and conference wellbeing ahead of degree of difficulty this season. There could have been some more reliable teams, but we thought staying close to home and calling up some GRLC teams would be the way to go. After hearing the conesequences some young DII squads have brought upon their conference, we knew we didn't want to screw up.
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When I was coaching, our last season we received $450 from the school and our operating budget was in excess of $60,000. We had raised dues over the previous 2-3 season from ~$500 to close to $1500. Each player was given opportunitiy to work fundraisers for credit against their dues. Coaches received no stipends and we could show each kid that nearly every dollar was spent on them. We also then did not ask for any additional money from the guys. They paid only for their food and entertainment on trips. We manged their cost expectation this way.
The dues increase scared off a few guys (including an elected team captain). However, one player did an analysis of his spending before the increase and after and found them to be equivalant, although he didn't have any custom gear before dies increases.
Maybe we might have been better getting less custom equipment to keep dues down (a little). I wouldn't, nor would any of the players, give up the 3 trips we'd take annually for out of conference games (2 weekend by bus and one week by plane). Great experiences on and off the field.
The dues increase scared off a few guys (including an elected team captain). However, one player did an analysis of his spending before the increase and after and found them to be equivalant, although he didn't have any custom gear before dies increases.
Maybe we might have been better getting less custom equipment to keep dues down (a little). I wouldn't, nor would any of the players, give up the 3 trips we'd take annually for out of conference games (2 weekend by bus and one week by plane). Great experiences on and off the field.
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