Top 25 D2 Results for Poll #4

[Gvlax]

There are three things that come to mind PNCLL wise that bother me:
1: Puget Sound is undefeated with wins against what you have as #13 Western Washington and #17 Central Washington but is only ranked 12th.
2: Western Oregon (6-2) is below Western Washington (5-3) even though Western Oregon beat them by 10 in the season opener.
3: Southern Oregon should not be ranked. If you look at their wins this season they go accordingly. Lewis & Clark (0-5), Portland State (Not a MCLA sectioned team), Willamette (4-5), Pacific Lutheran (3-5), Humboldt State (Not a MCLA sectioned team), and San Jose State (2-5). Not one quality opponent.
I see it going more like this:
1. Westminster
2. St. Johns
3. Dayton
4. Fort Lewis College
5. Emory
6. Grand Valley State
7. St. Thomas
8. Elon
9. Puget Sound
10. Utah Valley State
11. Montana State
12. Western Oregon
13. SCAD
14. Western Washington
15. Central Washington
16. Northern Colorado
17. Metro State
18. Colorado School of Mines
19. Harding
20. Davidson
21. Crieghton
22. U.S. Coast Guard
23. Southwestern
24. Charlotte
25. UC- Santa Cruz

Do you put St. Thomas after emory even though they did beat them?

[sostrowski]

Coast Guard just lost to Framingham St (PCLL 2), should they be ranked?

CG beat WPI (PCLL 1), but played Framingham with a couple of key players out due to injury. I feel that CG deserves to be ranked after a tough showing against Maryland (Club), beating GWU (club), and beating WPI.
--Scott Ostrowski
Coach, CGA

[scooter]

Coast Guard just lost to Framingham St (PCLL 2), should they be ranked?

CG beat WPI (PCLL 1), but played Framingham with a couple of key players out due to injury. I feel that CG deserves to be ranked after a tough showing against Maryland (Club), beating GWU (club), and beating WPI.
--Scott Ostrowski
Coach, CGA

i would assume its hard for voters to gauge teams who are not playing tough OOC opponents. The PCLL isn't known as power conference, and playing non-MCLA teams isn't supposed to factor into voting

[laxmid1077]

Here is my poll for this week.
1. Westminster 5-3 They are legit. I do not know what happened against Southwestern, but they seem to be capable to beat anyone they play in both divisions. They have no Top 20 wins according to my poll. They played well against Division I teams but could not pull out a win.\
2. St. Johns 4-1 Beat the #6 team in the country with it being their second game of the day which is now #9 in my poll. Lost as well to the one Division I opponent they faced.
3. Dayton 4-0 They have won against both their top 25 opponents.

The deciding factor for Westminster/SJU/Dayton is this weekend with all of them having huge games.

4. Emory 4-2 Looks like they found their defense after the Elon game and can put some points up as well.
5. Fort Lewis College 6-1 Another team that can put up some points and took care of metro which some teams seem to be having trouble with.
6. St. Thomas 6-1 Big loss to GVSU but had some quality wins against Emory and Charlotte. Big weekend coming up as well.
7. Elon 6-1 Close game with Emory and won big against Charlotte.
8. Grand Valley State University 7-0 They can score a lot of goals but have to prove more than just one win in this league against top competition.
9. Utah Valley State 4-2 Lost to UNC and SJU but beat Montana State.
10. SCAD 7-4 Lots of wins against middle class teams. Only win against top 25 is against an overrated CMU team. Not a strong schedule but could be a better team than I think.
11. Montana St. 3-1 Lost to UVSC but two quality top 25 wins against UNC and Metro.
12. Puget Sound 6-0 Quality wins against Central Wash and Western Wash, but I can’t put the PNCLL in the top 10 with each team playing only in their conference.
13. Western Washington 5-3
14. Northern Colorado 3-2 Big win against UVSC but two losses to Montana St. and Metro.
15. Western Oregon 6-2
16. Harding 2-2 They had a close game with Dayton and killed an overrated CMU team.
17. Central Washington 5-2
18. Metro St. 3-2 Both Metro and Mines can play with the top 10 but cannot be consistent with their play. Metro over Mines with their current win against UNC.
19. Colorado School of Mines 3-2 They can play but not consistent enough.
20. Charlotte 4-3 Big loss to Davidson. No wins in top 25 but they can compete.
21. Southwestern 5-4 Way overrated. Played Westminster to a close game but LOST. That loss is their only claim to fame.
22. Crieghton 5-1 No quality wins. Have played lower class teams (trying not to be mean) and beat them. Nothing impressive enough to be in the top 20.
23. U.S. Coast Guard Academy 3-1
24. Davidson 6-1 Big win against Charlotte.
25. Southern Oregon 6-3

*Too hard to judge the PNCLL but it seems like they should be in the 10 to 20 range.

I had heard Grand Valley had expressed interest in playing St. Johns this past weekend, but were turned down. It is tough to get games against the top 5 especially when the early polls only put someone at 19th. Maybe their high goal output is trying to show they should have been ranked higher, but their goals against seem to be the most impressive.
Harding showed they still have the talent to play with top teams in the country, but also the CMU game is hard to judge since CMU has not shown anything since last year. They need to really pull out the rest of their season and beat the rest of their opponents handily and beat southwestern by a good margin.
Not sure what SCAD has done to prove a top 10 spot. They play Charlotte soon and then a break before the league and national tourney.

[Pinball]

I had heard Grand Valley had expressed interest in playing St. Johns this past weekend, but were turned down.

Probably because they already had two league games, that were scheduled in late February.

[laxmid1077]

I had heard Grand Valley had expressed interest in playing St. Johns this past weekend, but were turned down.

Probably because they already had two league games, that were scheduled in late February.

So did St. Thomas though. Not trying to make an excuse for GVSU, but just giving my insight as to why they only had the chance to play St. Thomas and hopefully a match-up against Dayton sometime in the CCLA tourney. Im sure they would have liked to drop one of their other games that weekend to play St. Johns.