4/11/07 Division A Poll is out!

[Ben Clark]

Seriously, this whole discussion really shouldn't be happening. There is no vast conspiracy here. Keep in mind that a poll is a consensus of varying opinions that results in an average of all voters opinions. If everyone had the same opinion, there would be no reason to have a poll. One voter thinks that an undefeated team should be #1. That's OK. Deal with it.

I just wanted to highlight this post. Everyone is acting like it's a travesty that NU got a first place vote. It's not a big deal. There is a coach who feels NU is the best team in the country. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Theflow]

One win against a top 25 team (arizona) should get you a first place vote in front of BYU (8 top 25 wins) or CSU (5 top 25 wins). Makes perfect sense...

[wheelz33]

One win against a top 25 team (arizona) should get you a first place vote in front of BYU (8 top 25 wins) or CSU (5 top 25 wins). Makes perfect sense...

Of course, one could also say someone has shown both BYU and CSU can be beaten, while the same can't be said about Northeastern. And yes I realize strength of schedule has a lot to do with that blah blah blah. Just trying to show both sides of the story.

And since everyone keeps bring up college football in these threads, I find it interesting that most seem to agree that voters in our poll have their right to privacy with regards to their votes, while in college football a big deal has been made for making votes public for accountability...

[DG]

There goes my conspiracy theory. But that also debunks my theory that coaches don't vote for their own team.

Flip is the only guy that has said he won't vote his own team #1.

[CATLAX MAN]

And since everyone keeps bring up college football in these threads, I find it interesting that most seem to agree that voters in our poll have their right to privacy with regards to their votes, while in college football a big deal has been made for making votes public for accountability...

There is a big difference between the BCS poll and the MCLA poll. College coaches - one in particular - publically acknowledged that they lobbied and encouraged other voters to vote specific teams up and others down to prevent certain teams (Cal) from gaining a BCS Bowl bid and allowing their team to get one. It was a pure manipulation for purposes of affecting bowl bids. Hence, the public outcry for accountability.

That is not happening here.

[DG]

Time will tell if Northeastern = Auburn or not...

If Jason acutally did that, not that he did, it would put UCSB on the other side of the bracket and force them to play Sonoma in the first round. It would also make it so BYU didn't have to play UCSB in the second round. Pretty interesting if it is the truth........

Yes, (cough) Coach Lamb did it because he knows how all of the conference tournaments are going to play out. He knows which of the favorite teams is going to be upset, and who is going to win out. He knows which of the bubble teams are going to show well, and which are going to be shown as pretenders. He knows how all 40 pollsters are going to vote in the final poll. He is the Puppet Master, and is rigging the system so that his team doesn't have to face the Gauchos in round 2.

[byualum]

Time will tell if Northeastern = Auburn or not...

If Jason acutally did that, not that he did, it would put UCSB on the other side of the bracket and force them to play Sonoma in the first round. It would also make it so BYU didn't have to play UCSB in the second round. Pretty interesting if it is the truth........

Yes, (cough) Coach Lamb did it because he knows how all of the conference tournaments are going to play out. He knows which of the favorite teams is going to be upset, and who is going to win out. He knows which of the bubble teams are going to show well, and which are going to be shown as pretenders. He knows how all 40 pollsters are going to vote in the final poll. He is the Puppet Master, and is rigging the system so that his team doesn't have to face the Gauchos in round 2.

Dave...in the future, please keep the secrets of the Zion's Network within the family.

Thanks.

[horn17]

Time will tell if Northeastern = Auburn or not...

If Jason acutally did that, not that he did, it would put UCSB on the other side of the bracket and force them to play Sonoma in the first round. It would also make it so BYU didn't have to play UCSB in the second round. Pretty interesting if it is the truth........

Yes, (cough) Coach Lamb did it because he knows how all of the conference tournaments are going to play out. He knows which of the favorite teams is going to be upset, and who is going to win out. He knows which of the bubble teams are going to show well, and which are going to be shown as pretenders. He knows how all 40 pollsters are going to vote in the final poll. He is the Puppet Master, and is rigging the system so that his team doesn't have to face the Gauchos in round 2.

Sorry Sonny...this is now my vote for post of the year....(que McDonalds music..."Im Loving It"...)

[Sonny]

Time will tell if Northeastern = Auburn or not...

If Jason acutally did that, not that he did, it would put UCSB on the other side of the bracket and force them to play Sonoma in the first round. It would also make it so BYU didn't have to play UCSB in the second round. Pretty interesting if it is the truth........

Yes, (cough) Coach Lamb did it because he knows how all of the conference tournaments are going to play out. He knows which of the favorite teams is going to be upset, and who is going to win out. He knows which of the bubble teams are going to show well, and which are going to be shown as pretenders. He knows how all 40 pollsters are going to vote in the final poll. He is the Puppet Master, and is rigging the system so that his team doesn't have to face the Gauchos in round 2.

Sounds like this year's season of 24. Where is Jack Bauer when you need him?

[lil lady lax fan]

I know this is going to sound kind of silly, but Congrats to the Cougars of Claremont on their #24 spot. Way to go your first year in A!!

Good luck in your upcoming conference playoff game against either ASU or U of A.

[OAKS]

One win against a top 25 team (arizona) should get you a first place vote in front of BYU (8 top 25 wins) or CSU (5 top 25 wins). Makes perfect sense...

Albany (4 top 25 wins, 1 top 10 win) is ranked higher than Virginia (6 top 25 wins and 3 top 10 wins). This shows you that NCAA coaches value an undefeated season with some decent wins a bit more if the other team has a loss, even to a good team. And it's their job to do this, so you'd figure they know what they're doing. Just giving some examples for people to chew on - I'm not endorsing one side or the other, 'cause I don't know which to choose, and that's why I'm not a voter.

[Theflow]

that is true, but 4 wins compared to 6 is much different than 1 win (NE)compared to 8 wins (BYU). Having one of the voters choose Northeastern as number one does not help the argument that the poll voting is a fair and balanced process. I wonder who that voter had as number 2?

[Sonny]

that is true, but 4 wins compared to 6 is much different than 1 win (NE)compared to 8 wins (BYU). Having one of the voters choose Northeastern as number one does not help the argument that the poll voting is a fair and balanced process. I wonder who that voter had as number 2?

1 voter (out of 40) votes for an undefeated team and makes it an unfair polling process?

[Theflow]

So is connecticut in their same conference. Should they get a number 1 vote? We are not talking about the strongest conference here, and to not consider that when voting a team ahead of BYU or CSU, who both play the best teams in the country, is not responsible in voting for a number 1 spot.

[Dan Warren]

It's NU, not NE...