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Postby creasemonkey on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:35 am

While I agree that the ideal scenario would be to have the D2 tourney at 16 teams like the D1 field, anyone who has followed D2 for the last 2-3 years should know that this is still a couple years away from becoming a reality. The actions of a few D2 teams have given some people a bad taste in thier mouths about what would happen if the D2 field was expanded, and rightfully so considering the past couple years. I think the best thing that we, as a division, can do is to establish a positive track record at the Tournament, beginning with this year and continuing on for years to come. In time, hopefully these isolated incidents will be overshadowed by the showing that D2 teams have at the tournament, and the competitiveness of the games.


I feel as if the tournament will really start showing what teams are 100% in it to win and take a shot at being the best. Also (if i remember correctly) Irvine was punished for not staying the whole time last year and that will not only damage your reputation it would damage the players who intend on playing at a school that isn't allowd to go.

I'm not even sure if I made sense... Been studying for finals for like 8 hours. :evil:
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Postby James Foote on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:41 am

Gross wrote:Wally, I would GUESS that it is a combination of the timing, money, and possible short notice. Those are just the things that have come up as potential issues for us at St. Thomas in years past. Luckily, we have been able to work around them and even tentatively plan ahead for the possibility of guys having to pay extra money at the end of the year, guys having to coordinate with their teachers to move their final exams, etc.

My hope is that, after two straight years of having "mishaps" regarding teams and Nationals, (ALL) the individual conferences would try to take some action to avoid similar scenarios. Something like only allowing teams that could and would make the trip to Dallas compete in the conference tournament might go a long way in preventing a "sleeper" team from winning the conference and then having to scramble to coordinate a week long trip for 30+ people on one week's notice.


Expendable cash and little advance notice has been a huge obstacle for many teams, and unfortunately it's kept some teams out of the trip. A lot of teams fail to put money away ahead of time for the tourney just in case they make it. I'm sure another issue could be teams located outside of driving distance and the cost of airline tickets a week or two before Nationals.

Either way, we're going to have to make a good name for ourselves here in DII.
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Postby creasemonkey on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:29 am

To the plasma bank!!!!
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Postby James Foote on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:40 am

creasemonkey wrote:To the plasma bank!!!!


I actually suggested that at the start of the season... didn't fly, but definitely an option!
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Postby creasemonkey on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:50 am

a number of our guys did so to pay for nationals its easy cashmoney
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Postby MF on Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:09 am

wapiti wrote:In the bcs, quality wins toward the end of the season count.
Rgarding UNC, they have wins against 2 of the teams going to the RMLC playoffs ( Mines and Fort Lewis ) with a 1 goal overttime loss against a good Montana State team. They are not going to the RMLC playoffs due to a tiebreaker. They did not play Westminster. Looks like a
bubble team, who will have to wait until all this gets sorted out.


IMO, It’s over for UNC. Them not making into the playoffs give them no chance to rise in the polls. Fort Lewis and Montana St play in the 1st round and how they could go ahead of the winner of that game should be impossible.
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Postby IndianaJones on Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:12 am

creasemonkey wrote:I feel as if the tournament will really start showing what teams are 100% in it to win and take a shot at being the best.


So the teams that played in the Div 2 tournament the last 3 years weren't in it to win it?

Maybe Division 2 can tell us which years that really want to take the shot at being the best and which years they don't want to compete?

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Postby laxtube2 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:38 pm

If the overranked Fort Lewis beats MSU UNC should be looked at. They did BEAT Fort Lewis.
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Postby laxtube2 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:39 pm

A team does NOT have to make their conference playoffs to recieve an At Large bid.
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Postby MF on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:41 pm

laxtube2 wrote:If the overranked Fort Lewis beats MSU UNC should be looked at. They did BEAT Fort Lewis.


MSU beat UNC by 1 and Fort beat Metro by 12 goals, Metro who beat UNC. I guess we have to see the final score or if Fort even beats Montana St.
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Postby MF on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:47 pm

laxtube2 wrote:A team does NOT have to make their conference playoffs to recieve an At Large bid.


Yes, I agree that you don’t need to be in the playoffs to get an at large bid. I was just stating that it hurts their ability to rise in the poles.
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Postby laxtube2 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:53 pm

Pretty sure you said NO CHANCE to rise in the polls which is ridiculous. As for a 16 team tourney I don't see how the past should hurt the entire division. you could pull 12 teams from a couple conferences and have a great tourney. It seems to be the weaker conferences that have made consistency a problem.
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Postby Gvlax on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:01 pm

laxtube2 wrote:Pretty sure you said NO CHANCE to rise in the polls which is ridiculous. As for a 16 team tourney I don't see how the past should hurt the entire division. you could pull 12 teams from a couple conferences and have a great tourney. It seems to be the weaker conferences that have made consistency a problem.


I believe Calvin went every year they WON their conference AQ. The year they don't accept an AT LARGE bid the conference gets labeled as a weaker conference... hmm i love your logic. CCLA still sent their AQ and went to the semi finals over some of these teams from "stronger" conferences.
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Postby laxtube2 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:23 pm

Obviously with Dayton and GVSU that would have been one of the stronger conferences that I would have pulled 12 from for '08. When Calvin won the AQ how did they do at Nationals? Since that would have made them the strongest in the big bad CCLA in past years
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Postby Gvlax on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:37 pm

laxtube2 wrote:Obviously with Dayton and GVSU that would have been one of the stronger conferences that I would have pulled 12 from for '08. When Calvin won the AQ how did they do at Nationals? Since that would have made them the strongest in the big bad CCLA in past years


oh they blew haha i was just putting a plug in there about my harsh feelings of the outcome of Calvin's penalty.


I dont see UNC ever going higher than Emory or SJU this year. Emory went to the championship for their conference, lost to a great team. And in the regular season only lost to UST by 1 and UNC lost by 6. UNC also lost to SJU by 7 so i dont see them getting a look at an AL bid before those two teams do. Yes they will jump up but they didnt do anything with those OOC games to impress voters.
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