Top 25 D2 Results for Poll #4

by **Gvlax** on Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:32 am

1. Westminster 5-3
Win vs Utah State (RMLC-2) 15-3

2. St. Johns 4-1

3. St. Thomas 6-1
Loss vs #19 Grand Valley State University (CCLA-2) 12-13 OT
Win vs NDSU (UMLL-2) 13-1
Win vs Moorhead (UMLL-2) 21-0

4. Dayton 4-0
Win vs #20 CMU (CCLA-2) 26-3
Win vs #16 Harding (GRLC-2) 15-11

5. Emory 4-2
Win vs Kennesaw St. (SELC-2) 16-2

6. Utah Valley State 4-2
Loss vs #13 Northern Colorado (RMLC-2) 5-12
win vs #11 Montana St (RMLC) 12-9

7. Fort Lewis College 7-1
Win vs Regis U. (RMLC-2) 22-4
Win vs #24 CSM (RMLC-2) 16-2
Win vs #22 Metro St. (RMLC-2) 17-5

8. SCAD 7-4

9. Elon 6-1

10. Charlotte 4-3
Loss to Davidson (SELC-2)

11. Montana St. 5-1
Loss vs #6 UVSC (RMLC-2) 9-12
Win vs #13 UNC (RMLC-2) 15-14

12. Southwestern 5-4
Win vs St. Edwards (LSA-1) 11-1

13. Northern Colorado 3-3
Loss vs Oregon (PNCLL-1) 7-18
Win vs #6 Utah Valley State (RMLC-2) 12-5
Win vs #11 Montana St. (RMLC-2) 14-15

14. Crieghton 5-1
Win vs South Dakota (GRLC-2) 18-0

15. Puget Sound 6-0

16. Harding 2-2
Loss vs #4 Dayton (CCLA-2) 11-5
Win vs #20 CMU (CCLA-2) 25-2

17. Western Washington 5-3

18. Western Oregon 6-2
Win vs #23 Pepperdine (WCLL-2) 15-2
Loss vs Claremont (WCLL-1) 8-15
Win vs Cal State Fullerton (WCLL-2) 18-3

19. Grand Valley State University 7-0
Win vs UWEC (UMLL-2) 25-3
Win vs Augustana (GRLC-2) 26-0
Win vs Moorhead (UMLL-2) 17-0
Win vs #3 St. Thomas (UMLL-2) 13-12 OT

20. Carnegie Mellon 1-3
Win vs RHIT (CCLA-2) 23-4
Loss vs Grove City (CCLA-2) 8-10
Loss vs #4 Dayton (CCLA-2) 3-26

21. Central Washington 5-2

22. Metro St. 3-2
Loss vs Fort Lewis (RMLC-2) 5-17

23. Pepperdine 3-2
Loss vs #18 WOU (PNCLL-2) 2-15

24. Colorado School of Mines 3-2
Loss vs #7 Fort Lewis (RMLC-2) 2-16

25. U.S. Coast Guard Academy 3-2
Win vs Worcester Polytechnic Institute (PCLL-1) 6-5
Loss vs Framingham (PCLL-2) 12-14

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by **Gvlax** on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:16 pm

Let me know what i have missed, please.

by **Zeuslax** on Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:12 pm

Carnegie Mellon is 0-2

by **Timbalaned** on Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:19 pm

Zeuslax wrote:Carnegie Mellon is 0-2

how are they in the Top 25 then?

by **Gvlax** on Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:27 pm

Timbalaned wrote:
Zeuslax wrote:Carnegie Mellon is 0-2

how are they in the Top 25 then?

last loss came after the new poll came out and their first loss was to SCAD who is a top 10 team.

by **Kyle Berggren** on Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:03 pm

#18 WOU over #23 Pepperdine 15-2... <couch> underrated <cough>

by **Gvlax** on Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:37 pm

Kyle Berggren wrote:#18 WOU over #23 Pepperdine 15-2... <couch> underrated <cough>

or was pepperdine overrated?

by **Kyle Berggren** on Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:20 pm

They can probably type better than I have been lately... but as someone that's been to Dallas each of the last 2 years, focusing on D2, as well as been a voter, WOU is under ranked. It may be a case of both, but WOU very well might be the class of the PNCLL.

by **Gvlax** on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:35 pm

I'm sure there are some games i missed.

by **LPM21** on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:47 pm

as someone that plays for a team in the WCLL, I would like to say that Pepperdine was overrated from the get go.They have not done anything special to deserve that ranking, other than returning alot of players from last year. I think that was exposed last week when a young up and coming Fullerton team had them beat until they destroyed themselves with penalties in the second half and Pepperdine took advantage of it. After seeing Western Oregon come down and crush our WCLL teams last year, I do believe they are underrated. As far as the WCLL goes, dont be surprised if Santa Cruz wins the north and a very underrated biola team gets the AQ for the National Tournament.

by **USTLAX06** on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:21 am

as someone that plays for a team in the WCLL, I would like to say that Pepperdine was overrated from the get go.They have not done anything special to deserve that ranking, other than returning alot of players from last year.

I was hoping the WOU vs. Pepperdine game would give us a bit more insight to the largely segregated PNCLL Div 2. Based on the above and what I've heard the WCLL is just having a down year, and our only real connection into how the PNCLL compares to the rest of the nation is summarized in the above quote and what we've been seeing from the WCLL. Are there any general insights as to how the top 2 PNCLL teams would compare around the league? Are their any more OOC games coming for the PNCLL? I see 2 scenarios here: either the PNCLL is pretty balanced and is just living under the hype of their own incubation (doubt it!) or they are really that good and we as a league just don't have the insight due to the lack of ooc games.

The highest ranked PNCLL team is UPS I believe. Unless some serious shakeups happen (by no means out of the realm of possibility with the amount of lax left to be played), we may be looking at only an AQ in the tourney for the PNCLL due to the low rankings of their teams, which appears to be largely driven by the fact that they have yet to spill out into comparisons with the rest of the league.

by **CharlotteLAX16** on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:24 pm

#10 Charlotte loses by 1 to Davidson(SELC-2)....Not sure of the actual score though.

by **Gvlax** on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:59 pm

CharlotteLAX16 wrote:#10 Charlotte loses by 1 to Davidson(SELC-2)....Not sure of the actual score though.

Thats two big divisional losses for Charlotte, what does this mean for thier playoff chances?

Does this mean they are out of the race? What does that do for voters since they dont have enough OOC games for an AL? Do they stay in the top 10? top 20?

by **CharlotteLAX16** on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:13 pm

Gvlax wrote:
CharlotteLAX16 wrote:#10 Charlotte loses by 1 to Davidson(SELC-2)....Not sure of the actual score though.

Thats two big divisional losses for Charlotte, what does this mean for thier playoff chances?

Does this mean they are out of the race? What does that do for voters since they dont have enough OOC games for an AL? Do they stay in the top 10? top 20?

My understanding is that they can tie for 2nd place in their Division in the SELC-2....Davidson has the tiebreaker and makes the SELC tournament. Their season is pretty much done because of the OOC. I wouldnt think that this would drop them out of the poll despite having no chance for nationals.

A guy I talked to from the team sounded a bit down after the game and unsure of the future(i.e next season) and I don't blame him.

I predict a ranking between 15-20 for the next poll

by **USTLAX06** on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:02 am

I hate to say it, but Carnegie just lost again to a team I've heard pretty much nothing about. I'd have to say that they can probably be dropped from this discussion with only one win over a team that just isn't any good.

MAybe Grove City College is a good squad, but just looking at that record makes me think they should be out of the poll.