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Posted: **Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:20 pm**

Is Boise State becoming the Sunday night game of the week on ESPN?

(all times Eastern)
** GamePlan DirectTV Channels in parentheses

10-10 Wed. Navy @ Pittsburgh 8:00 p.m. ESPN

10-11 Thu. Florida State @ Wake Forest 7:30 p.m. ESPN

10-12 Fri. Hawaii @ San Jose State 8:00 p.m. ESPN

10-13 Sat. Georgia Tech @ Miami, Fla Noon ESPN
10-13 Sat. Illinois @ Iowa Noon ESPN2
10-13 Sat. Central Florida @ South Florida Noon ESPNU
10-13 Sat. Purdue @ Michigan Noon BigTen (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Minnesota @ Northwestern Noon BigTen (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Kent State @ Ohio State Noon BigTen (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Virginia Tech @ Duke Noon LFS/GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Rutgers @ Syracuse Noon GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Eastern Michigan @ Ohio Noon GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Texas @ Iowa State 12:30 p.m. FSN
10-13 Sat. Baylor @ Kansas 12:30 p.m. FSN Regional
10-13 Sat. Alabama @ Ole Miss 12:30 p.m. LFS/GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. New Mexico @ Wyoming 2:00 p.m. The Mtn
10-13 Sat. Bowling Green @ Miami, Ohio 3:00 p.m. GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. LSU @ Kentucky 3:30 p.m. CBS
10-13 Sat. Arizona @ Southern California 3:30 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Texas A&M @ Texas Tech 3:30 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. South Carolina @ North Carolina 3:30 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Wisconsin @ Penn State 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN (reverse mirror)
10-13 Sat. Boston College @ Notre Dame 3:30 p.m. NBC
10-13 Sat. UConn @ Virginia 3:30 p.m. ESPNU
10-13 Sat. Rice @ Houston 3:30 p.m. CSTV
10-13 Sat. Fresno State @ Idaho 5:00 p.m. GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. Air Force @ Colorado State 5:30 p.m. The Mtn
10-13 Sat. Georgia @ Vanderbilt 6:00 p.m. ESPN2
10-13 Sat. Missouri @ Oklahoma 6:30 p.m. FSN
10-13 Sat. Oregon State @ Cal 7:00 p.m. Versus
10-13 Sat. Louisville @ Cincinnati 7:00 p.m. ESPNU
10-13 Sat. Indiana @ Michigan State 7:00 p.m. BigTen
10-13 Sat. UL-Monroe @ North Texas 7:00 p.m. GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. New Mexico State @ Louisiana Tech 7:00 p.m. GP (Ch. TBA)
10-13 Sat. SMU @ Southern Miss 7:30 p.m. CSTV
10-13 Sat. Auburn @ Arkansas 7:45 p.m. ESPN
10-13 Sat. Colorado @ Kansas State 9:15 p.m. ESPN2
10-13 Sat. BYU @ UNLV 9:30 p.m. The Mtn
10-13 Sat. Washington @ Arizona State 10:15 p.m. FSN

10-14 Sun. Nevada @ Boise State 8:00 p.m. ESPN

Posted: **Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:22 pm**

USA Today Top 25 Poll

1. LSU (58 ) 6-0 1,498
2. California 5-0 1,416
3. Ohio State (2) 6-0 1,399
4. Boston College 6-0 1,283
5. Oklahoma 5-1 1,145
5. South Florida 5-0 1,145
7. USC 4-1 1,000
8. Oregon 4-1 936
9. West Virginia 5-1 931
10. Virginia Tech 5-1 913
11. Missouri 5-0 897
12. South Carolina 5-1 823
13. Arizona State 6-0 763
14. Florida 4-2 714
15. Wisconsin 5-1 689
16. Hawaii 6-0 632
17. Cincinnati 6-0 578
18. Kentucky 5-1 493
19. Illinois 5-1 425
20. Kansas 5-0 390
21. Florida State 4-1 213
22. Texas 4-2 195
23. Georgia 4-2 188
24. Purdue 5-1 149
25. Auburn 4-2 143

Others Receiving Votes
Virginia 67, Tennessee 60, Texas A&M 52, Texas Tech 44, Rutgers 44, Boise State 37, Connecticut 36, Indiana 30, Penn State 27, Michigan 22, Maryland 20, Wyoming 18, Clemson 16, Colorado 15, Wake Forest 12, Nebraska 10, Mississippi State 6, Brigham Young 6, Alabama 6, Kansas State 5, Stanford 4, Michigan State 3, UCLA 2.

Dropped From Rankings
Rutgers 21, Clemson 22, Nebraska 23, UCLA 25.

Posted: **Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:23 pm**

AP Top 25

1. LSU (65) 6-0 1,625
2. California 5-0 1,538
3. Ohio State 6-0 1,511
4. Boston College 6-0 1,346
5. South Florida 5-0 1,339
6. Oklahoma 5-1 1,221
7. South Carolina 5-1 1,183
8. West Virginia 5-1 1,059
9. Oregon 4-1 1,047
10. USC 4-1 1,024
11. Missouri 5-0 966
12. Virginia Tech 5-1 910
13. Florida 4-2 822
14. Arizona State 6-0 752
15. Cincinnati 6-0 705
16. Hawaii 6-0 634
17. Kentucky 5-1 612
18. Illinois 5-1 595
19. Wisconsin 5-1 551
20. Kansas 5-0 336
21. Florida State 4-1 307
22. Auburn 4-2 248
23. Texas 4-2 136
24. Georgia 4-2 131
25. Tennessee 3-2 90

Others Receiving Votes
Texas A&M 79, Purdue 48, Colorado 48, Indiana 40, Michigan 31, Texas Tech 27, Rutgers 25, Virginia 22, Connecticut 20, Kansas State 18, Boise State 17, Clemson 13, Penn State 13, Maryland 11, Alabama 9, Nebraska 9, Mississippi State 3, Washington 2, Wyoming 2.

Dropped From Rankings
Rutgers 21, Clemson 22, Purdue 23, Kansas State 24, Nebraska 25.

Posted: **Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:42 pm**

How is Florida still in the top 15???

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:37 am**

where should they drop after a competitive loss to #1 on the road?

what about UGA being ahead of UT?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:56 am**

Danny Hogan wrote:where should they drop after a competitive loss to #1 on the road?

Behind undefeated teams like Arizona State, Cincy and Hawaii.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 am**

Dan Wishengrad wrote:Behind undefeated teams like Arizona State, Cincy and Hawaii.

When ASU, Cincy and/or Hawaii play a decent opponent...then they talk.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:16 am**

Dan Wishengrad wrote:
Danny Hogan wrote:where should they drop after a competitive loss to #1 on the road?

Behind undefeated teams like Arizona State, Cincy and Hawaii.

Rrrrriiiigggght.

So if UF played Cincinatti next week, you bet on cincinatti?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:54 am**

Yeah, you're both right. I am going to have to adopt the southern mentality that the SEC is sooooooo tough and weak leagues like the Pac-10 deserve no respect. Since ASU plays in a "weak sister" conference, let's forget wins and losses and just vote all the SEC teams to the top fifteen and fill in the rest of the poll with other teams afterward.

Heck, let's just award the SEC champ the title now and cancel the rest of the season. If games are really played out an ASU, a Cincy, Missouri or a Hawaii might actually become this year's Boise State. Oklahoma proved once and for all last year what a huge mistake it was to award a team like BSU a BSC bowl game, which they clearly didn't deserve because they "didn't beat anybody" in amassing a winless record in in '06.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:17 am**

Dan Wishengrad wrote:Heck, let's just award the SEC champ the title now and cancel the rest of the season.

Ah, kind of like what happens with USC every year?

It's still early in the season...if any team in a major conference manages to go undefeated at the end of the regular season...then they should be playing in the national championship game.

Hawaii - Wins and losses means jack when you're playing against Idaho Institute of Technology (Moscow Campus) and running the score up on them. When the hardest game of your season is Washington...you need to make a real schedule.

Cincinnati - They've beaten Oregon State and Rutgers...congrats...here's a cookie. They've never been a good team..but yeah...it seems like they've already tripled their average yearly wins. But they still have to play West Virginia, South Florida and (still unbeaten Connecticut)...so we'll see till then.

Arizona State - With a convincing win over perennial powerhouses such as San Jose State, San Diego State and Washington State....I am honestly surprised that we haven't seen them consider a possible move to the NFL. Once again, Arizona State has never been great...they still have left to play Oregon, USC and Cal.

We're what, 6 games into the season and teams are still making their way through the cupcake forest. No one said that the SEC is the greatest thing ever to touch college football...but at what point can you honestly say that playing a hard schedule week in and week out has no relevance to the rankings?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:33 am**

Beta wrote:Hawaii - Wins and losses means jack when you're playing against Idaho Institute of Technology (Moscow Campus) and running the score up on them.

I believe it was our culinary school?

Brennan had 369 yards that game but also threw 5 interceptions and wasn't overly impressive.

I think Idaho jumped into the top 150 after that game?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:35 am**

Beta wrote:but at what point can you honestly say that playing a hard schedule week in and week out has no relevance to the rankings?

Who said it had NO relevance? If strength of schedule is the most important thing, than why aren't my Huskies the unanimous #1 team in both polls? Washington has the toughest strength of schedule in the country -- in every reputable ranking I have seen.

What I am saying is that wins and losses are MORE important at this or any other point in the schedule when we're at least halfway through the season. Florida is a fine team, all sarcasm aside. But the Gators are only 4-2, and shouldn't be rated ahead of undefeated teams just because they are from the mighty SEC. If, at the end of the regular season, the Gators finish with only two losses and the undefeated teams you are belittling are no longer undefeated, than UF should be ranked ahead of them. But this week? My vote would have them certainly behind ASU, at least.

If you accept Sonny's earlier point that we are seeing parity like never before in college football (and I do!), than why not rank teams based on what they are actually doing on the field, rather than on reputation and strength of schedule? You can't have it both ways...

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:49 am**

Dan Wishengrad wrote:If you accept Sonny's earlier point that we are seeing parity like never before in college football (and I do!), than why not rank teams based on what they are actually doing on the field, rather than on reputation and strength of schedule? You can't have it both ways...

You can base it off of wins/losses AND strength of schedule. Reputation means nothing in regards to wins/losses if you also strength of schedule (See: South Florida).

Ill play along, so how do you rank all of the undefeated teams in regards to each other if wins/losses is the most important factor? Then why isn't UCONN ranked #1? Shouldn't there be a 7 team tie for #1 (or however many undefeated teams are out there)?

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) the rankings are in regards to each other and not "in general". What I am saying is "This team ranked at N is better than team ranked at N+1". Because Florida taking both losses down to the final seconds (one to LSU)....holds more water for their ability than beating up on teams that won't finish with a record over .500. Maybe the teams that complain about not being ranked as high...should play better teams throughout the season...and not just when they have to play The-Team-That-Lost-To-Stanford-at-Home or yearly Holiday Bowl contenders, Cal.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:02 am**

Danny Hogan wrote:where should they drop after a competitive loss to #1 on the road?

Because the week before they lost to an unranked (at the time) opponent at home and dropped to what? like 10th?

Same thing with USC, how can you lose to an unranked opponent at home and still be in the top 10?

I thought there was supposed to be parity in college football, but I guess it's a popularity contest these days, and when you have ESPN covering stories about your third string linemen and their trials to get to THE USC.... :roll:

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:53 am**

Yeah USC still being number 7 is crap. To be at 7 they had to have been voted higher than 7 by some people because I am sure there were some people that voted them lower than 7 to make that balance out. Whoever voted them higher than 7 should have their vote taken away.

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