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Keep your gums flapping Rosie

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:24 pm
by Sonny
Don't you just love the mouthpiece of the left?

Recently, Rosie O’Donnell, a co-host of ABC talk show The View, made comments on the show that renewed controversy over the collapse of World Trade Center 7.

While saying she didn’t know what to believe about the U.S. government’s involvement in the attacks of Sept. 11, she said, “I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7—building 7, which collapsed in on itself—it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes—7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible.”

She continued: “To say that we don’t know that it imploded, that it was an implosion and a demolition, is beyond ignorant. Look at the films, get a physics expert here [on the show] from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school—[the collapse] defies reason.” (Watch the clip here)

For those interested in what physicist and demolition experts have said regarding WTC 7’s collapse, as detailed in our book Debunking 9/11 Myths, PM offers these notes:


Popular Mechanics debunks her latest ramblings:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/9 ... 13805.html

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:15 pm
by sohotrightnow
Oh geez, you are asking for trouble. She's an idiot. Most sane people recognize this and don't take her seriously. I love her about as much as I love the mouthpiece(s) of the right...where shall I begin?

Ann Coulter
Bill Bennett
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O'Reilly
David Horowitz
Michelle Malkin
John Gibson
Jerry Falwell
Pat Robertson
Laura Ingraham
Laura Schlessinger
Ted Haggard
Melanie Morgan
Lee Rodgers
Mel Gibson
Glenn Beck

Shall I go on? Let me know if you need any more racist, sexist, pseudo-patriotic hypocrites who spew vitriol on a daily basis and I will be happy to oblige.

Shall I go to the effort of finding all the ridiculous assertions that this collection of individuals said about 9/11?

Come on, she is an uneducated boob. These mouthpieces on the right carry much more clout and the tragedy of it all is that conservative peons take their word as Gospel truth.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:38 am
by Sonny
Let me know when Ann Coulter gets an hour on ABC each morning to "educate" the homemakers of America.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:23 am
by StrykerFSU
Isn't this the same show where they compared Rumsfeld to Hitler?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:31 am
by CATLAX MAN
Rosie almost make me want to take Donald Trump's side. :roll: :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:44 pm
by laxative
Sonny wrote:Let me know when Ann Coulter gets an hour on ABC each morning to "educate" the homemakers of America.


Now that's a scary thought! :shock:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:27 pm
by UofMLaxGoalie11
I feel this would be a perfect place for a gobblerlax05 post. Something involving a football team, a canceled t.v. show and maybe even a model of car; all strung together beyond our comprehension to make it completely unreadable, unrelated and even more humorous.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:58 am
by Jana
The beautiful thing about being an American is that Rosie can say what she wants, Donald can criticize her for it - and we can all take sides and express our opinions without fear of jackboots coming for us in the middle of the night.

Actually I thought it was a kind thing for Trump to give Miss USA a second chance. America is all about redemption and starting over, it's part of our historical religious fabric and why the bankrupcy laws exist (as opposed to throwing people in work houses, as they did in Britain). I never really understood why Rosie was so angry - it was just before the holidays and usually we honor people who act charitably and with forgiveness. Kind of scroogelike of her, actually.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:32 am
by cjwilhelmi
Have any of you read some of the comments at the end of the article that Sonny posted? I really want to go throw up.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:37 pm
by Jana
There are a couple of rational comments if you can stomach the rest;


#120. After fifty years working in the steel industry, I'd like to tell Rosie that fire is the essential ingrediant in the making, shaping and treatment of steel. Since steel loses it tensile strength at about 800 degreees F, and the flame temperature of most hydrocarbon fuels is over 3000 degrees F, yes, Rosie, it is physically possible for fire to melt steel.

#177: (excerpt) What seems unusual to me, an engineer by education and owner of a steel fabrication and erection company for over 21 years is that the buildings withstood the impact of the Boeing jets initial impact and the raging fires that consumed the upper floors in question as long as they did. It's a credit to everyone involved in the design and construction of those buildings that they stood for as long as they did. The over engineering of these structures allowed for the escape of thousands if not tens of thousands of potential victims. Rosie O'Donnel, Charlie Sheen and the rest of the uneducated irrational posters here who bad mouth PM for bringing indisputable facts to the forefront aren't worth the time it would take to educate them, they are hopeless


to conclude - should we trust someone who probably didn't even graduate from high school, but managed a career as a comic? Or should we trust structural engineers?

Sometimes the truth is so obvious that people don't want to believe it. With the hijackers dead, there isn't anyone to to actively get mad at - so the conspiracy theories, anger at the FBI by some of the WTC widows, etc continues on and on. It was a tragedy, let's mourn the dead and find Osama.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:32 pm
by sohotrightnow
Guess who made this comment last week, Osama Bin Laden or Michael Savage?

"Down came the World Trade Centers. That was God speaking."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200703300007

Let me guess, Michael Savage is on the fringe and people don't pay attention to him, right?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:16 am
by StrykerFSU
I'm not sure what Michael Savage has to do with Rosie O'Donnell being an idiot other than that they are both certainly allowed to have their opinions, no matter how ill informed they might be. If it was attempt to show that people on the far-right are as nutty as the people on the far-left, we already know that. That argument would be weak in this case anyhow unless someone had made the contention that Rosie was representing all Dems or Liberals with her statements of conspiracy and I don't think that was the purpose of this thread. Savage's statement that God knocked down the Towers no more represents common conservative thought than Rosie's comments illustrate that Liberals have no understanding of physics and chemistry.

My own problem with Rosie and the other 9/11 conspiracy theorists stems from their implication that the President of the United States and some shadowy group of evil government henchmen would plan and carry out the murder of thousands of American citizens. This is not some plot arc in 24, this is the real world. If you want to accuse the President of something like that, you better have some darn good proof.

But hey, she is just an irrational ideologue and trying to reason with someone like that is a complete waste of time. Folks that allow their opinions to be shaped by The View are no more worthy of enlightened discussion than folks who spend the day watching Sesame Street.

Re: Keep your gums flapping Rosie

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:20 am
by onpoint
StrykerFSU wrote:That argument would be weak in this case anyhow unless someone had made the contention that Rosie was representing all Dems or Liberals with her statements of conspiracy and I don't think that was the purpose of this thread.


Sonny wrote:Don't you just love the mouthpiece of the left?


That would be the very first statement in the very first post of this topic. I would say that was the contention that Sonny posited.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:20 am
by Jolly Roger
StrykerFSU wrote: Folks that allow their opinions to be shaped by The View are no more worthy of enlightened discussion than folks who spend the day watching Sesame Street.


Unfortunately, too many of people who's idea of the world are shaped by TV "personalities" end up breeding like bunnies thus ensuring a host of developing idiots for future generations to deal with.

At least the Sesame Street kids will be able to count and spell :twisted:

I would assume that no one on the Left would claim Ms. O'Donnell as a spokesperson.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:34 am
by StrykerFSU
You're right, I didn't reread the original post. Regardless, I stand by my point that most people don't view the opinions of Savage or O'Donnell as representative of the majority of members of their respective political affiliations.