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Historic 2008 Election?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:19 pm
by Zeuslax
Well, it's official, Hillary Clinton declared and definitely the strongest African American candidate ever is running too; Barack Obama. In addition, one of the most respected senators in Joe Biden has entered the race and Evan Bayh is considering again after saying he isn't running. We can't forget John Edwards and it has been rumored that Tom Vilsack may be interviewing for the job with Edwards. Plus senator Chris Dodd from Connecticut. In an effort to keep this post from getting too long I'll leave some of the descriptions out. There's a few other very strong candidates that were thinking about running, but they may change their minds with the additional big announcement.

Currently the Republicans can't even come close to matching this field, with the candidates that have declared, but they have some strong candidates considering as well. Giuliani, Mitt Romney and McCain for instance are all sitting in the wings.

It's going to be interesting, especially if the Dem's get dirty. That could open the door for a sleeper Republican to slip in. I can even anticipate one of the Democrats switching to an independent. Clinton is a shoe-in to be a front runner, but the timing may be terrible for the country. If she happens to win, she will be attacked relentlessly like we have never seen in this country and I don't think we can afford to be further divided. Especially with the current situations domestically and internationally. Americans are looking for a unitor.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:38 pm
by Brent Burns
I want to emphasize that this is a rumor that is going around right now that the Hillary Clinton camp wants to carefully check out Barack Obama's religious background, that is, his Muslim heritage. That is coming from reading several sources this morning.

At any rate, the 2008 election is going to very interesting.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:04 pm
by laxfan25
Brent Burns wrote: this is a rumor that is going around right now that the Hillary Clinton camp wants to carefully check out Barack Obama's religious background, that is, his Muslim heritage.

I heard a rumor that Barack's REAL name is actually Osama, and that he changed it about 10 years ago. Fox News said that a geneological check on his family tree shows that the he and the other Osama (B.L.) have a common heritage going way back, and that both have ties to Iraq, back when it was Mesopotamia. Supposedly their great, great, great, etc. grandparents were A'Daam and A'ieve.
More news and film at 11.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:25 pm
by CATLAX MAN
If Hillary gets the Democratic nomination, it could be a bad situation for the Dems. The pundits maintain that she in unelectable in Middle America and it would give the Republicans a big advantage.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:42 pm
by StrykerFSU
In my opinion, both Obama and Hillary are unelectable. It will be blamed on race and gender but Obama's inexperience and Hillary's divisiveness and reputation will be the real reasons.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:53 pm
by OAKS
StrykerFSU wrote:In my opinion, both Obama and Hillary are unelectable. It will be blamed on race and gender but Obama's inexperience and Hillary's divisiveness and reputation will be the real reasons.


Bush had no real experience, yet he got elected.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:42 pm
by Brent Burns
CATLAX MAN wrote:If Hillary gets the Democratic nomination, it could be a bad situation for the Dems. The pundits maintain that she in unelectable in Middle America and it would give the Republicans a big advantage.


Wonder which states in the Middle America may vote for Hillary if 2008 is here?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:10 pm
by StrykerFSU
Bush had no real experience, yet he got elected.


True, and the argument would be that he was governor of one of the largest states in the Union while Obama is a first term Senator with no major legislation bearing his name. Personally, I would not have voted for Bush in a 2000 primary, I was and am a McCain guy.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:14 pm
by somrandomguy
I really hope Obama gets the Democratic nomination, because I hate Hillary Clinton with a burning passion. I'd have to consider voting Republican if she was the Democratic nominee *shudder*

At least the Republican candidates aren't bad. McCain especially, I like McCain even if he is a bit conservative.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:11 pm
by shrekjr
laxfan25 wrote:Supposedly their great, great, great, etc. grandparents were A'Daam and A'ieve.

That right there is funny, I don't care who ya' are! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:17 pm
by laxfan25
StrykerFSU wrote: Obama is a first term Senator with no major legislation bearing his name.

True that, although there is another Illinois politician - I think he served four terms as a rep in the Illinois House, and one term in the US House of Representatives - and was then elected President. He was also intimately involved in leading the country while the military was bogged down in fighting a civil war, and he did OK - gave a few good speeches as I recall...can't remember his name though - he seems to have faded away.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:31 pm
by shrekjr
So if Hillary becomes President :( does that mean Bad Boy Billy gets to go to elementary schools and read books to all the kids. I can just imagine him starting a new reading program for college girls!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:35 pm
by laxfan25
shrekjr wrote: I can just imagine him starting a new reading program for college girls!


"Why don't you come over here and sit on my lap while I read you a story, and then we can talk about the first thing that pops up!" :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:39 pm
by shrekjr
"Bill and Jill went up the hill. 'Jill, honey, did you take your pill today'".

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:24 am
by Madlax16
hell will freeze over before hillary is ever president. Otherwise im moving to canada, tho its a socialist state, it sounds alot better than the US with hillary.