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So, is he better than Jordan or just Scottie Pippen with better talent?

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I think Kobe thinks he is a one man team, and doesn't play well with others. I think he'd be perfectly happy playing 1 on 5 if he could get away with it.

KnoxVegas wrote:So, is he better than Jordan...

Not a chance.

If Kobe can win some titiles withoht the big aristotle then we can talk about him being as good as Jordan. Jordan the ultimate Team player. I am sure if Jordan wanted to, he could have scored that many points in a game. Probably could have scored 40-50 points a night, but that wasn't who he was.

Point of fact: Jordan did not win an NBA Championship without Scottie Pippen.

Point of fact: Jordan played for the Bullets without Scottie Pippen.

The difference is that Jordan insisted on and worked hard to make his teammates better. I don't see the same thing watching Kobe.

So, Chamberlain is known for scoring 100 on the court and scoring 20,000 off the court. Kobe is known for socring 81 on the court and doing what off the court? Yikes! Talk about tarnished. I've never been a really big fan of his anyway...

I am bitter right now, our company was suppose to be at that game but the outing got cancelled last week.

Screw the stats... look at the film. I don't particularly care who won what with or without who. Jordan is the best player of our time, if not all time (all due respect to Russell, Havlicek, Magic and the Dr). Jordan made everyone around him better (Pippen, Kucoc, etc.). Kobe makes everyone around him look terrible. Kobe's a one man team. He deserves credit for his accomplisment last night, but I don't think as of right now you can compare him to MJ.

Sure MJ never won without Scottie Pippen. But Kobe hasn't done anything but miss the playoffs without Shaq.

Yes Kobs performance was great, I saw the replay of the game, he was sick. But if Mike took 50 shots a game, he probably would have scored that many also. The difference between Kobe and MJ, Bird and Magic, is that all these guys got their teammates involved. MJ as you remember gave the ball up on the final play in a couple of NBA finals games to the likes of John Paxon, Steve Kerr and BJ Armstrong. The reason he gave it up is because he was getting doubled teamed, teams weren't going to let Mike take the shot.

I think the most overlooked performance in NBA history is Michael Jordan's game against the Jazz when he had the Flu and Dropped 37 points on em. Everyone here knows how hard it is to do anything with the flu, let alone play in an NBA game.

JW wrote:I think the most overlooked performance in NBA history is Michael Jordan's game against the Jazz when he had the Flu and Dropped 37 points on em.

overlooked by lifelong residents of siberia maybe. i think thats perhaps 'the performance' of my lifetime, at least.

vinateri, schilling (and i hate baseball) come to mind as well.

Why are we all being so hard on Kobe? I'd like to be hard on Lebron James who gets nothing but hype but has yet to make the play-offs. If I hear one more person say, "He's better than Jordan"...

Jordan- 6 Championships
Bryant- 3 Championships
Lebron- Nothing



And yes, I know it is only his third year. Jordan did not explode in to championship-land until his... 6th season?

JW wrote:Everyone here knows how hard it is to do anything with the flu, let alone play in an NBA game.

It wasn't the flu, it was Visine on his steak. Plus, Jordan pushed off and the refs conviently looked the other way.

KnoxVegas wrote:

JW wrote:Everyone here knows how hard it is to do anything with the flu, let alone play in an NBA game.

It wasn't the flu, it was Visine on his steak. Plus, Jordan pushed off and the refs conviently looked the other way.

Hey, that's what you get when you're the best player in the game.

DanGenck wrote:Why are we all being so hard on Kobe? I'd like to be hard on Lebron James who gets nothing but hype but has yet to make the play-offs. If I hear one more person say, "He's better than Jordan"...

Jordan- 6 Championships
Bryant- 3 Championships
Lebron- Nothing

And yes, I know it is only his third year. Jordan did not explode in to championship-land until his... 6th season?

Lebron is probably one of the best athletes to come into the NBA and the kid's been 21 for a month. When Jordan came in with the Bulls, they weren't the greatest team in the league... that's why they got him. They built a team a round him that dominated the NBA in the 90s. Cleveland has been a really poor organization for a long time and it will take them a while. Nobody is saying he is better than Jordan, but a lot of people are saying he could be.

Kobe is a rare talent, believe me. I have seen him blow up the Mavericks this year, not fun. I hate his attitude.

I am not saying that he is a bad player, but he is not the greatest of all time. I would say that his 81 points is probably the best regular season performance in the history of the NBA, granted the Raptors looked disinterested and was trying to hand him 100 points.

I just think that until he does something in the playoffs with someone equivalent to Scottie Pippen, then we can't compare him to Jordan. Kobe won 3 titles with the most dominant player in the league in Shaq.

During the Laker 3-peat. Kobe was to Shaq as Pippen was to Jordan.

Yes Kobe is a good player, but remember what happened to Pippen when Jordan Left. Nothing. Pippen sat out the final play of the game against the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals. Kobe hasn't even been to the playoffs without Shaq.


In conclusion, Kobe great player, not greatest player.