bste_lax wrote:And ELR is a horrible show, so you are not missing out too much.

Hmmmmm... I thought it was pretty funny, myself. The episode where Ray buys Debra a vacuum and she tries to find dirt in Marie's house with it is an absolute classic. Anybody who has insufferable parents (or in-laws) had to love that show, so I guess you must have been raised in an orphanage, Matt
PS the character on the show was Ray Barone, so I'm guessing the tattoo wearer doesn't like his stand-up routine...