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Super Tuesday Part Deux

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:19 am
by Sonny
Watched most of the Dems debate last night.

Where does Hillary go from here? She really didn't even score any major points as far as I could tell and Obama didn't put his foot in his mouth.

Will she continue to throw the kitchen sink at Obama? Will resign from the campaign quietly if she doesn't win big next Tuesday? Or will she go kicking and screaming?

I wonder if she is willing and able to put her own political ambition aside for the betterment of her party.

Re: Super Tuesday Part Deux

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:36 am
by Beta
Sonny wrote:Will she continue to throw the kitchen sink at Obama? Will resign from the campaign quietly if she doesn't win big next Tuesday? Or will she go kicking and screaming?


Kicking and screaming, mos def.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by Rob Graff
If she loses both Ohio and Texas, I'm HOPEFUL she bows out. But i'm not counting on either thing happeining. I think they split those states.

Rob

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:23 pm
by Jac Coyne
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... d-to-beat/

I don't have the blind faith in polls like some on this board do, but this was interesting. Guess I'll have to continue to root for Billary.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:55 pm
by Zeuslax
From what I hear she will bow out graciously. In the last few days she has been scrambling (Obama has as well) to hold the line on a few super delegates. This should come out in the next few days, but she lost about 50 additional supers in the past couple of days. Chris Dodd is the first big name in this group. He came forward yesterday. This was another big blow to the Clintons as he is/was a major supporter of the Clintons. They pressed him hard to sit on his decision, but this was to no avail.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:06 pm
by TheBearcatHimself
Jac Coyne wrote:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/27/poll-mccains-hard-to-beat/

I don't have the blind faith in polls like some on this board do, but this was interesting. Guess I'll have to continue to root for Billary.


Does that mean you don't have blind faith in Frank Luntz either?

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POLLS TELL US EVERYTHING!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH!! POLLSTERS ARE ALWAYS FAIR AND UNBIASED!!! NUMBERS DO NOT LIE!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:26 pm
by Jac Coyne
TheBearcatHimself wrote:Does that mean you don't have blind faith in Frank Luntz either?

POLLS TELL US EVERYTHING!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH!! POLLSTERS ARE ALWAYS FAIR AND UNBIASED!!! NUMBERS DO NOT LIE!!!!


I can handle the liberal bias of this board. I can tolerate the mindless Bush bashing. I can even look past the anti-O'Reilly sentiment.

But I'll be DAMNED if I sit quietly and let someone disparage Frank Luntz. I take his word as gospel.

Anyway, someone with that bad a toupee has to be a good person.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:03 pm
by Zeuslax
I can handle the liberal bias of this board. I can tolerate the mindless Bush bashing. I can even look past the anti-O'Reilly sentiment.

But I'll be DAMNED if I sit quietly and let someone disparage Frank Luntz. I take his word as gospel.


.......that's funny.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:29 pm
by Sonny

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:29 pm
by Jac Coyne
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:51 pm
by Zeuslax


Unfortunately this is very true and both parties send out information like this. For those unfamiliar with the nuances of caucusing small things such as being the first to deal with incoming voters can have a huge impact. Especially for independents that are looking to re-register. Leadership positions provide additional face time to those that may be trying to influence others to their side. Precinent leaders have more time in front of the crowds and the crowd has more opportunities to see pins, posters and stickers. All of the little things can add up to significant advantages. Organization on the local level has been a major issue for Penn and others running her campaign. Obama's running a very well oiled machine and Clinton has been constantly behind. This forces them to try to muscle in instead of being proactive and finding early volunteers. It's easy to see that Clinton has run a very poor campaign. Here in PA Obama is already opening offices and Clinton is just beginning the traditional and extremely preliminary house parties. As a result, Obama has over a thousand volunteer leaders and Clinton has just a few hundred. It has been this way since day one for her.