britney loses custody

[UofMLaxGoalie11]

Im not completely sure about this, but I think one of the issues with shutting down the servers is that they might be based in other countries where copyright laws might not be as strictly enforced, or may be absent all together. Again, Im not read up on this at all, but I could see that being an issue.

[Champ]

Im not completely sure about this, but I think one of the issues with shutting down the servers is that they might be based in other countries where copyright laws might not be as strictly enforced, or may be absent all together. Again, Im not read up on this at all, but I could see that being an issue.

In some cases that is true as well.

[Beta]

Because not everything on them is illegal. There are plenty of free things to download through those avenues. And unlike your crackhouse example, these programs don't host the files which is why they don't get shutdown.

Not everything in a crackhouse is illegal. Rent is paid, good conversation, classy culture, etc etc.

If a financial firm is caught up in illegal activities that make up most of the companies' work...2 things will happen to that company 1) Shutdown. Kaput. Fin. Or 2) The companies' problems are fixed/monitored.

What if the authorities just punished the individuals the company harbored but let the company proceed as normal. That would be pretty bass-akwards.

The programs are the medium on which they travel.

Another example. If a cruise line knows full well of drug smuggling aboard it's shipping lines and doesn't do anything to stop it...wouldn't it be a good idea to fix the ship so it can stop being the place where crimes occur?

[Beta]

Im not completely sure about this, but I think one of the issues with shutting down the servers is that they might be based in other countries where copyright laws might not be as strictly enforced, or may be absent all together. Again, Im not read up on this at all, but I could see that being an issue.

Then they are still helping crimes by committed in America.

(insert comparison to our middle eastern policy here)

[UofMLaxGoalie11]

Im not completely sure about this, but I think one of the issues with shutting down the servers is that they might be based in other countries where copyright laws might not be as strictly enforced, or may be absent all together. Again, Im not read up on this at all, but I could see that being an issue.

Then they are still helping crimes by committed in America.

(insert comparison to our middle eastern policy here)

Yes, but if someone gets busted with drugs manufactured in another country, jurisdiction may not apply to where it was manufactured, just to the individual who was caught with the product. The authorities might be able to point their counterparts in the right direction, but if the authorities in that area choose not to take action, then there is not much we could do.

[Beta]

Yes, but if someone gets busted with drugs manufactured in another country, jurisdiction may not apply to where it was manufactured, just to the individual who was caught with the product. The authorities might be able to point their counterparts in the right direction, but if the authorities in that area choose not to take action, then there is not much we could do.

It's a tricky situation yes.

Let's say someone from Amsterdam is trying to sell someone in the States marijuana. It's not illegal there. It is here. Obviously if it's over cell phones you can't sue/shutdown Cingular.

But when the "drug" is information and can be conducted transferred via an electronic medium...there are ways of keeping those companies/servers in check for conducting illegal activities in America.

If that person in Amsterdam were advertising drugs in Times Square...it's not illegal there...but it's illegal here and should be taken down (whether it be physically...or electronically).

[Champ]

Because not everything on them is illegal. There are plenty of free things to download through those avenues. And unlike your crackhouse example, these programs don't host the files which is why they don't get shutdown.

Not everything in a crackhouse is illegal. Rent is paid, good conversation, classy culture, etc etc.

If a financial firm is caught up in illegal activities that make up most of the companies' work...2 things will happen to that company 1) Shutdown. Kaput. Fin. Or 2) The companies' problems are fixed/monitored.

What if the authorities just punished the individuals the company harbored but let the company proceed as normal. That would be pretty bass-akwards.

The programs are the medium on which they travel.

Another example. If a cruise line knows full well of drug smuggling aboard it's shipping lines and doesn't do anything to stop it...wouldn't it be a good idea to fix the ship so it can stop being the place where crimes occur?

The only part you missed is that the songs themselves are not actually illegal in any form, just the distribution (downloading if you don't own the rights to download it - i.e. don't own the CD).

The problem with the crackhouse example is that crack is actually illegal itself. Songs and other media are not.

[Jana]

this thread seems to have meandered far from the original topic....so in conclusion:

How would any of you feel if you found out your mom was showing off her cha-cha to the press when she exited vehicles, staying up all hours while you were home with the hired help, doing drugs, sleeping with an assortement of men, boozing it up, missing court dates to try to save her visitation rights with you, I could go on and on. She's a terrible mother.

I feel like Wish is finally telling us the Empress has no clothes (well...obviously). Can anyone produce a live performance with her belting out a song w/o tracks?

Christina Aguilera wasn't a favorite of mine (too many runs, trills, etc) until she hooked up with Herbie Hancock. Her version of Leon Russell's "A Song for You" makes this world a better place to live in. View/Listen here.

[Zeuslax]

Christina Aguilera wasn't a favorite of mine (too many runs, trills, etc) until she hooked up with Herbie Hancock. Her version of Leon Russell's "A Song for You" makes this world a better place to live in. View/Listen here.

One word, pipes!

[Dan Wishengrad]

Christina Aguilera wasn't a favorite of mine (too many runs, trills, etc) until she hooked up with Herbie Hancock. Her version of Leon Russell's "A Song for You" makes this world a better place to live in.

Terrific! Thanks for the tip, Jana. Couldn't access it through the link you provided, but paid my 99 cents to download it off iTunes and am happy I did.

As far as music making us feel the world is a better place, any other fans of great acoustic blues guitarists out there? Heard Kelly Joe Phelps? Listen to KJP's live version of the Skip James classic "Hard Time Killin Floor Blues" off of the live "Tap the Red Cane Whirlwind" CD and you'll wind up loading your ipod with Phelps' entire muscial collection, and in a hurry!