2007 College Football Schedule for Week No. 14 (12/1/07)

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Postby Zeuslax on Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:54 pm

You are supposed to throw in the towl and count the Vols out of any chance of winning....which of course they will then win and shock the nation.


Sounds like my Terps.......
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Postby Sonny on Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:16 pm

Busy day for the coaching carousel:
Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Duke, Southern Miss, Colorado State, SMU. Michigan and Nebraska too. (TAMU already found their coach.)
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Postby Sonny on Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:05 pm

Add Baylor, Washington State.
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Re: In Other News

Postby Gvlax on Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:17 pm

Andy Sharp wrote:Grand Rapids Welcomes Central Washington

Thanks for taking out the other top seed and enabling another home game for GVSU.

#1 Ranked Grand Valley State used a strong ground game and stingy defense to claim a 21-14 victory over North Dakota in NCAA DII Second-Round playoff action Saturay (Nov. 24) afternoon at Lubbers Stadium. GVSU (11-0) will host Central Washington next Saturday (Dec. 1) at Lubbers Stadium. Central Washington claimed a 20-17 upset win over the top seeded Nebraska-Omaha.


http://gvsulakers.cstv.com/sports/m-foo ... 07aaa.html

Grand Valley State increased its NCAA DII record winning streak to 39 games. GVSU's last loss was Nov. 24, 2004 at North Dakota...The GVSU senior class is 49-3, including an 11-1 mark in the NCAA DII playoffs...GVSU has won 22 straight games at Lubbers Stadium.


Gotta enjoy another season with a college football championship bracket.

Grand Valley's aiming for their 5th of the last 6 DII Championships.


After a crazy D1 regular season, D2 games are becoming a bit more interesting to watch. Go Lakers!

Im sure GVSU wouldn't mind playing Hawaii so they can play a tougher opponent.
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Postby TheBearcatHimself on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:18 pm

Sonny wrote:(TAMU already found their coach.)


I think Sherman is a solid addition for A&M. It'll be really hard for him to underachieve following Franchione, he has lowered expectations for that program for a decade to come.

Franchione most overrated coach in college football, just ask Tide fans who have seen their proud program reeling into oblivion started by Franchione's clown show (and Mike Price probly had a hand in that too), makes them long for the days of Mike DuBose :roll:

Franchione has made a career riding off LaDainian Tomlinson's coattails, he might as well go to San Diego and further make the best player in the league a non-factor.
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Postby FLAK on Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:05 pm

TheBearcatHimself wrote:
Franchione has made a career riding off LaDainian Tomlinson's coattails, he might as well go to San Diego and further make the best player in the league a non-factor.


LT went to TCU not A&M, did Franchione have a stint there before TAMU?
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Postby Sonny on Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:19 pm

FLAK wrote:
TheBearcatHimself wrote:
Franchione has made a career riding off LaDainian Tomlinson's coattails, he might as well go to San Diego and further make the best player in the league a non-factor.


LT went to TCU not A&M, did Franchione have a stint there before TAMU?


Yes, New Mexico to TCU to Alabama to Texas A&M to currently unemployed (if I recall correctly)
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Postby TheBearcatHimself on Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:23 am

FLAK wrote:
TheBearcatHimself wrote:
Franchione has made a career riding off LaDainian Tomlinson's coattails, he might as well go to San Diego and further make the best player in the league a non-factor.


LT went to TCU not A&M, did Franchione have a stint there before TAMU?


Ya, Franchione was LT's coach at TCU, he left right after Tomlinson left and has been riding the pseudo-success ever since pulling a Bill Callahan on two once-prideful programs.
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Postby Beta on Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:27 am

Sonny wrote:Busy day for the coaching carousel:
Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Duke, Southern Miss, Colorado State, SMU. Michigan and Nebraska too. (TAMU already found their coach.)


Bout damn time.

I wonder who they'll pick. The defense is pretty solid (Tenuta) but the offense...(cough recruiting cough) is pretty dismal.
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Postby swampthing on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:31 am

I don't think this one's the same thought process. Oregon lost a heisman trophy candidate (sorry I'm a Gator haha), whereas the roster remains relatively unchanged for LSU. I think VT is about 2 spots out of position.

On Flak's question:

I'm not sure there's a team this year that really deserves a NC shot above the rest, but there are definitely some teams that have a great shot at it that probably don't deserve it. I'm gonna have to call out a good - not great - WVU team here. They need to be undefeated to get a crack at a national championship with that schedule. I mean, the next ranked team from the big least is no. 21 southern florida (whom they lost to).

This would be an exciting year to see a playoff system. I want the Gators to get a redeeming crack at some of these "Top 8" teams like Kansas or Ohio State.
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Postby Dan Wishengrad on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:50 am

Beta wrote:I want Hawaii to play (anyone) for the national championship.

That way if they finally were to play their 3rd team with a winning record this year and get blown out...everyone in the press box will shut the hell up about how "people are scared to play Hawaii...and that's why their schedule is so weak"...as opposed to the more realistic "people don't play Hawaii because kicking their ass won't help their strength of schedule".


Joe this is not the first time you've posted on this site to demonstrate your "love" for UH. Why be such a hater? Don't you like underdogs and Cinderellas or do you just always root for the villain?

I agree with you that Hawaii's S.O.S. is pathetically weak, but then again so is their conference. Their OOC schedule wraps up with a game against Washington, which in another era might have been a quality opponent but now is just a speed bump. Yes, the Warriors have struggled mightily against some bad teams, coming from behind and barely squeaking through. But UH is undefeated, and now alone in this among D1 teams, and this does and should count for something. I have watched them play and believe they ARE a dangerous offensive team, one not many schools would like to have to prepare to defend. I'm not going to state I think Hawaii is #1, or deserves a shot for the national title if they beat the Huskies, or any other such nonsense. The title game system we have is rigged and BCS-corrupt, so a Cinderella need not even bother applying -- it is and will always be pre-ordained that only a select elite few from the major conferences will get the right to play for the national championship, and everyone else must be content to play for a lesser bowl. That this ridiculous system sometimes works -- like years where there are two teams so obviously and clearly better than all the others -- does not justify it IMHO. This year will certainly produce some truly justifiable controversy over who the BCS people anoint #1 and #2, and there will be some ticked-off schools in the end. But if we lived in a just world where college football had a playoff system, then I say Hawaii should be invited to the dance, and who knows -- just maybe the glass slipper might actually fit. But, alas, we don't live in such a world. College football games aren't ultimately won on the field, they are won in the smoke-filled rooms where a bunch of non-players will get together to decide which two one-loss teams from a major conference deserve the right to play for the title. And we all know Hawaii won't be one of those, even if they rout my Huskies by 60 points this coming weekend. They won't even be in the Top 10, because the BCS people agree with Beta Joe.

Ah, but if we could actually have a 12 or 16 team playoff tourney this coming month and let actual football games decide who plays for the title... well that would really be something. Who knows who would emerge as champion in this wacky season?
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Postby FLAK on Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:39 pm

The BCS defenders always cry about the lower teams losing a bowl game or the lower bowls would lose money and interest, (Like we cared about Indiana vs. Maryland anyways... sorry IU and Terp fans just an example)

There are 32 bowl games total.

What they could do instead is still have some lower bowls for the 48 teams that didn't make it as a sort of consolation pat on the back better luck next year (or turn it into the NIT), and then have the top 16 teams according to whatever ranking system used compete in the top 8 bowl games (BCS games are the final four with a N.C. and a 3rd place game). With AQ's for the recognized conference champions in the Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big East, Big XII, and the Pac Ten.

Of course there will be controversy as to whom of the remaining teams should or shouldn't go to the dance, but this would happen in any sport (MCLA for example).

This would be easily implemented, and can you think of the ridiculous t.v. ratings, awesome match-ups, and great games that could be created from this.

The problem seems to be that the conferences don't want to lose the guaranteed money they would make with the system as is, so they would have to figure out how to divy up the goods. But I still think they would make, as a collective, more money in this system than as is, plus we'd get a full month of watching great college football instead of the vomit inducing bowl match-ups today, and the back end of the NFL season when most teams already know that they will or won't make it to the playoffs.

It really is a win-win-win (the third is for me in successful negotiating the conflict for all you Office fans) situation for all parties involved
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Postby Beta on Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 pm

Dan, here is the reason I am such a hater of teams with pathetic schedules, here's Hawaii's this year with their opponents W/L:

Opponent W-L
Northern Colorado* 1-11
Louisiana Tech 5-6
UNLV 2-10
Charleston Southern* 5-6
Idaho 1-11
Utah State 2-10
San Jose State 5-7
New Mexico State 4-8
Fresno State 7-4
Nevada 5-6
Boise 10-2
Washington 4-8
Total Opp Wins 51
Total Opp Losses 89
Avg Opp W-L 4-8

* = 1-AA/BCS Subdivision

Hawaii is undefeated against whom? Some of the worst teams in D-1 and D-1AA? Why should Hawaii ever schedule anyone hard if they (and the rest of the WAC) continue to be rewarded for playing crappy, god-awful teams? I would LOVE to see Florida with that schedule...then they'd at least get a BCS game. Instead they're going to be in some smaller bowl while Hawaii gets a BCS game because they play girl's teams.

The "a D1 team is still a D1 team" is not even remotely true....at all....ever....not even close.

Or how about LSU's schedule...let's see Hawaii play that one. They both did play Louisiana Tech...with Hawaii winning 45-44 and LSU winning 58-10. PS The 44 points Louisiana Tech put up on Hawaii was the most they put up all year. Hell, Ole Miss...the worst team in the SEC beat Louisiana Tech 24-0...but I don't wanna get into "Who beat who" because it's not completely accurate.

Here's LSU's schedule Hawaii...since they're obviously equal of a BCS game of the same non-championship caliber.

Miss State
VT
MTSU
South Carolina
Tulane
Florida
Kentucky
Auburn
Alabama
Louisiana Tech
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Tennessee

Funny, LSU's easiest opponent (Louisiana Tech) gave Hawaii their best game.

The "high flying aerial offensive barrage passing dope bomb props" offense or whatever it is the announcers call it....means NOTHING when you play crappy crappy crappy teams.

(Cue someone saying the Boise State over Adrian Peterson last year, or Utah over Pitt 2 years ago)

Congrats...they played their first (or even 2nd) ranked team all year. Why even have a regular season if you're going to cupcake it through. Whereas what...AP was coming off of a broken collar-bone for the bowl game and Boise was healthy having come off of an undoubtedly brutal victory over Louisiana-State-Tech-Southwestern-Prep-Funeral-Home at Pine Bluff.

Also, "Cinderella" applies to an underdog. I don't think beating other crappy teams makes anyone an underdog.
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Postby Sonny on Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:03 pm

Houston Nutt stays in the SEC and moves over to Ole Miss...... Wow, that didn't take very long.
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Postby Sonny on Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:05 pm

Sonny wrote:Busy day for the coaching carousel:
Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Duke, Southern Miss, Colorado State, SMU. Michigan and Nebraska too. (TAMU already found their coach.)


Again, I say that football fans in the South have too much time on their hands:
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