Poll question (re: BCS Title game)

[laxative]

With the whole BCS thing in general, I guess I just can't buy into a system that starts the season with around 100 teams, all purportedly in one division, and yet some teams literally have no chance of winning the championship no matter what they do on the field. That's just not a fair system.

There can be no George Mason in NCAA DI football. . . .

I think everyone has a chance. It is all in the out of conference scheduling. If you don't schedule cupcakes you have a better chance. Fresno State "plays anyone, anytime" and have made a name for themselves, save this year, by playing traditional powerhouses. If you are from a "soft league" you have to play and beat the big dogs when the opportunity arises.

Of course not everyone can schedule and beat the potential SEC champs(Arkansas), the potential Big 12 champs(Nebraska), and Notre Dame(11/25), but then again...not everyone is championship material.

[OAKS]

I agree. Bowden has built FSU football and the administration and athletic director are not going to remove him. The question now is whether or not Bowden recognizes the need for change and bows out gracefully.

How many people were calling for Paterno's resignation just a couple of seasons ago? Who knows if Bowden's got more championship caliber seasons left in him.

[FLALAX]

I think everyone forgets that the NCAA has one priority above all, make the game financially viable. Look at the television contracts, licensing deals etc. You think that a true national champion is in those cards?

[Sonny]

Rutgers shot up there very, very quickly - but it appears as if the ND/USC winner will get a shot against the OSU/Mich winner.

BCS Standings.

Rk Team W-L Harris Coaches CPU % BCS Rk Points % Rk Points % Prev Avg
1 Ohio State 11-0 1 2800 .982 1 1574 .999 .930 1 .977
2 Michigan 11-0 2 2688 .943 2 1513 .961 1.000 2 .974
3 USC 8-1 3 2458 .862 4 1373 .872 .860 7 .870
4 Florida 9-1 4 2441 .856 3 1381 .877 .800 4 .850
5 Notre Dame 9-1 5 2267 .795 5 1273 .808 .840 9 .819
6 Rutgers 9-0 7 2024 .710 8 1082 .687 .950 13 .787
7 Arkansas 9-1 6 2234 .784 6 1248 .792 .680 11 .757
8 West Virginia 8-1 8 1864 .654 7 1113 .707 .600 10 .658
9 Wisconsin 10-1 11 1678 .589 10 928 .589 .740 15 .643
10 Louisville 8-1 10 1711 .600 12 884 .561 .750 3 .641
11 LSU 8-2 9 1846 .648 9 1054 .669 .480 12 .603
12 Boise State 10-0 13 1471 .516 13 830 .527 .610 14 .554
13 Texas 9-2 12 1630 .572 11 927 .589 .380 5 .517
14 Auburn 9-2 15 1304 .458 15 721 .458 .480 6 .468
15 California 8-2 17 1033 .362 17 580 .368 .580 8 .439
16 Wake Forest 9-1 14 1341 .471 14 724 .460 .370 19 .436
17 Oklahoma 8-2 16 1257 .441 16 711 .451 .260 17 .387
18 Georgia Tech 8-2 18 936 .328 18 566 .359 .390 18 .361
19 Maryland 8-2 21 567 .199 21 325 .206 .250 23 .220
20 Boston College 8-2 20 600 .211 20 384 .244 .200 22 .219
21 Virginia Tech 8-2 19 694 .244 19 420 .267 .100 21 .205
22 Tennessee 7-3 22 397 .139 23 213 .135 .290 16 .189
23 Nebraska 8-3 23 396 .139 22 228 .145 .020 26 .102
24 Oregon 7-3 25 129 .045 26 72 .046 .170 20 .087
25 Brigham Young 8-2 24 325 .114 24 116 .074 .000 28 .063

[bste_lax]

So if Florida loses, then the winner of USC/ND very likely will be playing for the National Championship. That means if Michigan loses a very close game on the road to OSU, they could be watching ND, a team they destroyed, play in the title game.

[LaxRef]

So if Florida loses, then the winner of USC/ND very likely will be playing for the National Championship. That means if Michigan loses a very close game on the road to OSU, they could be watching ND, a team they destroyed, play in the title game.

Strength of sports teams and the results of sporting events are nontransitive.

[ZagGrad]

So if Florida loses, then the winner of USC/ND very likely will be playing for the National Championship. That means if Michigan loses a very close game on the road to OSU, they could be watching ND, a team they destroyed, play in the title game.

[Sonny]

Michigan controls their own destiny at the moment. If they want to play in Glendale, then know what to do on Saturday afternoon.

[LaxRef]

Michigan controls their own destiny at the moment. If they want to play in Glendale, then know what to do on Saturday afternoon.

Reserve some field space at Glendale Community College and set up an intrasquad scrimmage?

[LaxRef]

With the whole BCS thing in general, I guess I just can't buy into a system that starts the season with around 100 teams, all purportedly in one division, and yet some teams literally have no chance of winning the championship no matter what they do on the field. That's just not a fair system.

There can be no George Mason in NCAA DI football. . . .

I think everyone has a chance. It is all in the out of conference scheduling. If you don't schedule cupcakes you have a better chance. Fresno State "plays anyone, anytime" and have made a name for themselves, save this year, by playing traditional powerhouses. If you are from a "soft league" you have to play and beat the big dogs when the opportunity arises.

This is a false argument. To say, "Everyone has a chance at the beginning of the season because it is possible for some teams to schedule strong out-of-conference opponents" ignores the fact that it is simply impossible for everyone to do that. Thus, no matter what, every season begins with a large number of teams that could, in principle, go undefeated and not have any chance to win the national championship.

[StrykerFSU]

...no matter what, every season begins with a large number of teams that could, in principle, go undefeated and not have any chance to win the national championship.

Especially given that 2/3 of the BCS formula comes from the human polls and the voters are so heavily biased against new comers.

[CyLaxKeeper00]

rutgers is #2 in the computer rankings.

[Beta]

rutgers is #2 in the computer rankings.

Very true, but the human poll is actually what's keeping them back. If they defeat WVU then there will def be some problems going undefeated and beating 2, top 10 teams.

[laxative]

Very true, but the human poll is actually what's keeping them back. If they defeat WVU then there will def be some problems going undefeated and beating 2, top 10 teams.

The only problem is that the two teams that they beat are suspect. The biggest OOC win in that conference is against a 5 loss Miami. They are clearly the best in the Big East, but that's not saying much. I think a bowl game of an undefeated Rutgers vs. undefeated Boise St. would be solid.

[bste_lax]

I think a bowl game of an undefeated Rutgers vs. undefeated Boise St. would be solid.

The "Not Quite National Title" Bowl coming to you live from Reno, Nevada on December 28, 2006.