Rudy "9/11" Giuliani's new ad

by **OAKS** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:16 pm

Biden was right: "I mean, think about it! Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2iFhGtKO-Q[/youtube]

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by **KnoxVegas** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:29 pm

Don't forget he also got rid of the hookers in Times Square and the Squeegee Mafia. Oh and moved his mistress into Gracie Mansion, while paying for her security all on the publics dime. Now that truly is fiscal responsibility!

Let's see Roger Ailes overcome Rudy's short comings now.

by **OAKS** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:31 pm

Ok, I just couldn't stand it. I had to say something about the ad.

First off, it doesn't even say Giuliani is going to do anything to stop terrorism and 'Madmen', or to promote peace. It only says that when the next crisis occurs, Rudy will be ready to react to it.

Secondly, from dictionary.reference.com:
Terrorism:
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

I submit that this video fits definition #1 of terrorism. Giuliani is using violence (prepetrated by others) to coerce people to vote for him.

by **Ben Clark** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:59 pm

I agree, Will. I don't really have anything against Giuliani, but that ad is a joke.

by **jessexy** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:05 pm

Ben Clark wrote:I agree, Will. I don't really have anything against Giuliani, but that ad is a joke.

Evidently, so is his campaign. He secured a reported 2% in the Iowa Caucus tonight. he should drop out too.

by **laxfan25** on Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:16 pm

Well that was Rudy's game plan from the start - to bypass Iowa - hoping for a big win in NH. Mitt was the big loser last night, even though he won the silver medal. Outspent the Huckster 6 - 1 to lose by a lot.
Barak's on a roll on the Dem side - it's going to be interesting if he pulls out a win in NH as well. He's really galvanizing the independents - like 2 to 1 over Hilary - people do want a change.
If McCain shows well in NH he will be a serious contender, and probably the nominee that the Dems would least like to see at the top of the ticket.
Huckabee is getting lots of press right now, but I don't think he'll hold up to in-depth scrutiny. Mitt's spending the money, but I just think people don't really like him. Rudy's faltering badly.
What's amazing ot me is that based on the coverage, you would have thought that last night was the November election. You've got all these 24 hour news organizations with all these resources geared up for the run to the White House, and with it totally focused on little Iowa - it made me want to gag. After Super Tuesday Iowa will be a distant memory, back to being a flyover state.

by **Beta** on Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:23 pm

laxfan25 wrote:Mitt's spending the money, but I just think people don't really like him.

Well Romney has 25% and Huckabee has 34%...that's not a giant lead. I honestly don't think Huckabee stands any chance in the blue states. Romney seems infinitely more likable than Huckabee.

Huckabee may have the Jesus Campers on his side...but there's only enough Kool Aid to go around.

Is this the sign that Obama is indeed a legit chance at a win it all?

by **laxfan25** on Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:34 pm

I just think that considering the effort Romney put into winning Iowa (he and his kids practically moved in there), he was dreaming of coming out of there with a big win and then taking his neighboring state of NH to add to his air of invincibility. With the massive expenditure, to almost lose by double-digits is embarassing, no matter what type of spin they put on it.

I think Huckabee, along with the evangelicals, is also trading on his sense of humor. He does have a track record as governor though. I heard an interview with the editor of the Arkansas Times, and he was bemused at how all of the media is falling all over the Huck. He gave some background that was less than flattering, and when you become a front-runner, everyone likes to turn on you - in our typical weird way.

Honestly, Obama's strong showing and wide appeal is gratifying and surprising. I like the guy, a lot, but didn't think he had the depth of experience to take it all the way. Of course, we've seen that being a failed businessman and governor of a state doesn't stop someone from taking a national election.
It'll still be a battle all the way with Clinton, she has formidable resources and is a tough and smart competitor.

I think McCain is going to be the story of this campaign season.

by **Zeuslax** on Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:52 pm

This will probably be the only time that I defend Rudy in the context of this conversation. To be fair he got absolutely derailed by the media. He dropped over 10 points in 36 hours due to false claims. The fourth arm of gov't flexed its muscle and this had a huge impact. Of course they retracted eventually but it was on page 336.

Whether it was an eventuality or doesn't seem to be the issue.