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Postby StrykerFSU on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:01 pm

I don't think very much, if any, money makes it back into the general university fund to, say, buy chalk or particle accelerators.

...or pay grad student salaries :lol:

Even so, one could argue that at the very least that money is improving the college experiences for the students at the University and not going into someone's pocket (notwithstanding football coach's salaries).
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Postby fsusg on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:18 pm

Going beyond all this, BCS schools make such an unbelievable amount of money off of students who don't see a dime from it. I don't blame the kid for getting a piece of the pie.




The NCAA sees collegiate athletics as amateur sport. If they wanted to pay athletes in monetary sums (not scholarships), then it would be professional sport. That's a key difference.

As for the BCS schools making money, a lot of that is used to cover all athletic expenses. Each school in the country is required to fill out a EADA report which states the revenues and expenses. USC just broke even. The University of Miami just got a little over $84,000. When considering that a football program can cost at least $10,000, $74,000 sure isn't enough for all the other sports.

Just because a school won the Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Sugar Bowl, or Rose Bowl does not mean that they got to automatically keep the bowl money. With the exception of Notre Dame, each school has to split that money among the other schools in the conference. Since Notre Dame is an independent, they get to keep it all...

If you want to check out EADA reports for other schools, go to this website:
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/search.asp
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Postby FlockOfSeagulls on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:48 pm

This reminds me of the great baseball steroids debate. Every time you find someone who you want to dig deep enough on, you can almost always find something 'shady'. Except, there are exponentially more college football players with money in their back pockets than baseball players with steroids or HGH in their systems. You want to strip the Hiesman and give it to the highest vote-getter that has never accepted a gift in his college career? You think that's VY or Leinart? Please. We'd be handing over the trophy to Florida A&M's long-snapper. Besides, we officially saw the start of a slippery slope this week with the guy named Ray Ray who is getting help to take care of his younger brother. Which is absolutely the way it should be. Personally, I'd pay any recruit named 'Ray Ray' to come play at my school.
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Postby LaxRef on Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:56 pm

fsusg wrote:
Going beyond all this, BCS schools make such an unbelievable amount of money off of students who don't see a dime from it. I don't blame the kid for getting a piece of the pie.




The NCAA sees collegiate athletics as amateur sport. If they wanted to pay athletes in monetary sums (not scholarships), then it would be professional sport. That's a key difference.

As for the BCS schools making money, a lot of that is used to cover all athletic expenses. Each school in the country is required to fill out a EADA report which states the revenues and expenses. USC just broke even. The University of Miami just got a little over $84,000. When considering that a football program can cost at least $10,000, $74,000 sure isn't enough for all the other sports.


You must be off by a factor of 1000 here, or something else is wildly wrong. I would expect a football program to cost at least $10 million or so (especially when some coaches make $2 million, then you have scholarships, travel, equipment, assistant coaches, recruiting, advertising and marketing, etc.). Heck, for $10,000 I might even be able to scrape together enough savings to have a college football team! :D

fsusg wrote:Just because a school won the Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Sugar Bowl, or Rose Bowl does not mean that they got to automatically keep the bowl money. With the exception of Notre Dame, each school has to split that money among the other schools in the conference. Since Notre Dame is an independent, they get to keep it all...


They do get to keep it all. However, if they don't go to a bowl, they don't get a dime, whereas a Big 10 school that doesn't go to a bowl will still get a piece of the pie from the other schools in the conference going to bowls. So being an independent isn't all sugar.
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Postby fsusg on Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:39 pm

yeah...i was off by a couple of zeros...i meant for that to be at least 10 million...
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Postby StrykerFSU on Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:55 am

Zaggrad's post in another topic reminded me of this but I thought it was more appropriate to be mentioned here:

Money from FSU's Orange Bowl appearance last year has been used to make improvements to Strozier Library on campus. I believe the amount was upwards of $2 million but I'm not positive.
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Postby LaxRef on Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:27 am

StrykerFSU wrote:Zaggrad's post in another topic reminded me of this but I thought it was more appropriate to be mentioned here:

Money from FSU's Orange Bowl appearance last year has been used to make improvements to Strozier Library on campus. I believe the amount was upwards of $2 million but I'm not positive.


That could just be an accounting trick. Take $2 million from the Orange Bowl appearance money, put it toward the library. Take $2 million from the school's general fund which could have been used for the library and put it toward the football budget.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but I know enough to be wary of such claims.
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