Div 1 All-America

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Div 1 All-America

Postby AndyP on Sat May 17, 2008 3:00 pm

Just wondering if anyone knows when these will be announced?
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Postby OAKS on Sat May 17, 2008 3:36 pm

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Postby B2 on Sat May 17, 2008 7:19 pm

Any predictions?
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Postby AndyP on Sat May 17, 2008 7:31 pm

I'm guessing BYU's grow will be a first teamer
as well as Pringle in Goal
possibly Manning for LSM
FSU's Noonan will be in there somewhere
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Postby bste_lax on Sat May 17, 2008 8:02 pm

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Postby Cat Gut on Sun May 18, 2008 3:55 pm

Here's the breakdown of the AA's by team. In case this isn't clear, the numbers after each team are the number of players that made 1st team, 2nd, team, 3rd team, honorable mention and then the bold number at the end of the line is the total AA players for that team.

Congratulations to all of the players that made these teams.

Team 1st 2nd 3rd HM Total
MCLA final 16
ASU- 2 0 1 0 -3
BC- 1 0 0 2 -3
BYU- 3 0 4 2 -9
Chapman- 1 1 0 0 -2
CSU- 0 2 1 0 -3
Florida- 0 0 0 0 -0
FSU- 0 1 0 0 -1
Georgia- 0 0 1 0 -1
LU- 1 0 0 3 -4
Michigan- 2 3 1 3 -9
UMD- 1 3 2 0 -6
SFU- 3 0 0 0 -3
Sonoma- 1 3 1 0 -5
TAMU- 0 1 1 0 -2
UCSB- 0 1 0 0 -1
VPI- 0 0 1 2 -3

Other Teams
BU- 0 0 0 1 -1
Colorado- 0 0 0 2 -2
Cal Poly- 0 0 0 1 -1
Illinois- 0 0 1 1 -2
Minn- 0 0 0 1 -1
Montana- 0 0 1 1 -2
NE- 0 0 0 3 -3
Oregon- 0 0 1 1 -2
Stonehill- 0 0 1 0 -1
Tex Tech- 0 0 2 0 -2
Utah- 0 0 0 2 -2
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Postby Cat Gut on Sun May 18, 2008 4:14 pm

Here's the breakdown of the AA's by conference. As before, the numbers after each conference are the number of players from that conference that made 1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team and honorable mention. The number in bold is the total AA's for that conference.

Conference 1st 2nd 3rd HM Total
CCLA- 2 3 1 3 - 9
GRLC- 1 0 1 4 -6
LSA- 0 1 3 0 -4
PNCLL- 3 0 2 2 -7
PCLL- 1 0 1 6 -8
RMLC- 3 2 5 6 -16
SELC- 0 1 2 2 -5
UMLL- 1 3 2 1 -7
WCLL- 4 5 2 1 -12
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Postby glennking on Mon May 19, 2008 12:21 pm

I see some semi-obvious people missing from this list. Am I the only one?
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Postby StickSideHigh on Mon May 19, 2008 12:29 pm

I agree, there are some that should be on there and others that should be shifted around in the order
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Postby steveperry on Mon May 19, 2008 2:26 pm

interesting to see two of the highest scoring offenses in the country, ASU and CHAPMAN, ranked #2 and #6, both in the final four of the tournament, have a combined total of 5 players on the list (2 from Chapman and 3 from ASU), which is equal to the number that the lower ranked Sonoma State has on the list. Not to mention the WCLL, with 8 teams in the top 25, has only 12 players total (The PCLL, with one team in the top 25 has 8 players, or 2/3 of the entire WCLL).

there is a lot to question about this list, and I hope that details of the selection process are made public.
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Postby univduke21 on Mon May 19, 2008 2:31 pm

I know I am a homer here but are you serious, Moriarty HM? Best goalie in the league hands down. All-American's are the best players in the country not players from the best teams in the country. Most of the time it works that way, but come on are you serious?
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Postby Chris Larson on Mon May 19, 2008 2:47 pm

steveperry wrote: there is a lot to question about this list, and I hope that details of the selection process are made public.


Process is pretty straightforward.

To be eligible, a player must be a member of his respective conference’s All Conference Team or a Conference Player of the Year. This puts pressure on conferences to do a better job of selecting the best players for their post season award teams. This is probably the point at which the current process has the greatest failure.

Player nomination forms must be completed by the head coach. This includes stats, previous awards (national & conference), and coach’s comments - particularly useful for defensemen and other non-glamour positions. It’s important for a coach to demonstrate that he believes his player is worthy of nomination. Many coaches do not do an adequate job of this.

Conference Directors, are also asked to include input comments as a more neutral evaluator. In addition conference directors are asked to place their conference’s nominees in rank order.

Applications consisting of a name only, or missing comments were not considered. I always asked directors to get incompletes filled out once before dicarding them.

Ballots were submitted to the MCLA Secretary, tallied, and All America teams defined. Voters included conference directors, presidents, divisional VPs, and the executive board (excluding myself).

I was asked this year by the Board of Directors to have the balloting completed so that the teams could be announced at the National tournament. Last year, the ballots were due after the tournament and which allowed a lot of the voters a chance to see these players compete (often head to head) and make evaluation. This may be a weakness of this year's results.
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Postby Chris Larson on Mon May 19, 2008 2:49 pm

univduke21 wrote:I know I am a homer here but are you serious, Moriarty HM? Best goalie in the league hands down. All-American's are the best players in the country not players from the best teams in the country. Most of the time it works that way, but come on are you serious?


Probably due to the small schedule the Buffs played this year. Not a lot of voters got to see him.
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Postby tiki monster on Mon May 19, 2008 2:53 pm

The thing that surprised me about the CU goalie being on the AA HM was that he was the 1st team RMLC and BYU's goalie was 2nd team in the RMLC and is on the 3rd team AA. I'm guessing it has something to do with BYU getting to the Nat'l tourney? Don't you have to be on the 1st team of your conference to even be eligible for AA?
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Postby Danny Hogan on Mon May 19, 2008 4:18 pm

might have a little to do with what Larson posted above (and BYU TV)....interesting though
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