Div II Question

The 2013 tournament returns to Greenville, SC this May.

Postby Timbalaned on Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:47 am

They don't want to waste time on traveling and playing "meaningless" games. No one will come and and say it, but that is the truth. When you only have to play 3 conference games, and usually they are all top 25 games, your strength of schedule is going to look really nice, then you can just schedule whoever else you want, ie CU this year. I mean it is a great idea when it works, but can backfire, ie CU this year. Hopefully next year when we have set guidelines on what designates a DI and DII there won't be an issue and all conferences will have a AQ.

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Postby woulax23 on Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:46 am

NYBuilt wrote:every conference should work like premier league soccer. the last place team in A division should play in the B division the next season and the first place team in B division should play in A division.


I could not agree less with this statement. Having "bad" teams play down to Division 2 and "good" teams play up only perpetuates the idea that DII is an inferior division, an idea that I believe the MCLA is trying to stop. The advent of a split based solely on school size with no possibiliy of teams playing down for next season should completely eliminate these ideas that DII is inferior. The only true difference should be in school size, which will naturally affect overall competetiveness. If we want to continue to be accepted as a virtual varsity league then we cannot just allow teams to move up or down from season to season depending on what kind of talent they have. That just seems obvious to me.

P.S. it has been DI and DII for quite a while now, not A and B
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champ seeding

Postby WallyLaxFan on Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:01 pm

I am curious as to how the MCLA determines the seeding for the DII tournament. Are automatic qualifiers given seeding priority or does the MCLA top 25 poll determine the seeding, or is there possibly a selection committee?
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Postby Jolly Roger on Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:11 pm

Seeding for D1 and D2 is based on the positions in the final MCLA poll that will be posted here on, I believe May 5th.

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Postby Sonny on Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:29 pm

Jolly Roger wrote:Seeding for D1 and D2 is based on the positions in the final MCLA poll that will be posted here on, I believe May 5th.

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Postby ritzy on Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:52 pm

Hi-Line Lax wrote:the RMLC tries to get teams to NOT compete in Div 1, the reason is up to interpretation. They have kicked out Boise State and made Wyoming and Utah State play down... their conference could easily get an AQ if they wanted one, but who cares when 3 of the 4 teams seem to make the tournament every year.


wait...what?

the RMLC kicked BSU out?

Please elaborate.
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Postby BigheadTodd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:21 pm

ritzy wrote:
Hi-Line Lax wrote:the RMLC tries to get teams to NOT compete in Div 1, the reason is up to interpretation. They have kicked out Boise State and made Wyoming and Utah State play down... their conference could easily get an AQ if they wanted one, but who cares when 3 of the 4 teams seem to make the tournament every year.


wait...what?

the RMLC kicked BSU out?

Please elaborate.


I don't think they were kicked out, but they were most certainly encouraged to leave. They were relegated to D2 because as was previously written, they were a very long drive for a non-competitive game for some of the D1 teams. One coach who keeps a blog had a few entries dealing with this. I agree wholeheartedly that the RMLC D1 is as close to a group of independents as you can get. But then again, what can be done? Do you force up Ft lewis, Westminster, or others? In D2, they are a shoe in for Nationals. In D1, they are nowhere near a playoff team. Those teams are probably 5-8 years away from being able to make a jump like that.
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Postby Gvlax on Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:36 pm

BigheadTodd wrote:
ritzy wrote:
Hi-Line Lax wrote:the RMLC tries to get teams to NOT compete in Div 1, the reason is up to interpretation. They have kicked out Boise State and made Wyoming and Utah State play down... their conference could easily get an AQ if they wanted one, but who cares when 3 of the 4 teams seem to make the tournament every year.


wait...what?

the RMLC kicked BSU out?

Please elaborate.


I don't think they were kicked out, but they were most certainly encouraged to leave. They were relegated to D2 because as was previously written, they were a very long drive for a non-competitive game for some of the D1 teams. One coach who keeps a blog had a few entries dealing with this. I agree wholeheartedly that the RMLC D1 is as close to a group of independents as you can get. But then again, what can be done? Do you force up Ft lewis, Westminster, or others? In D2, they are a shoe in for Nationals. In D1, they are nowhere near a playoff team. Those teams are probably 5-8 years away from being able to make a jump like that.


i didnt know Ft. Lewis already had a bid to nationals...
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