The Final Sixteen?

The 2013 tournament returns to Greenville, SC this May.

Postby bullhighutewoozgriffclam on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:08 pm

do is sense a little sarcasm.

my arguements aren't unfounded.

thanks for tearing them down though.

i've said enough in favor of utah.

it's up to the lax gods. (pollsters)
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Postby Sonny on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:08 pm

Va Tech lost to Fla State in SELC regular season play this year. The Hokies were not undefeated.
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Postby gobblerlax05 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:24 pm

we lost too uga &fsu!!!! but get this we tie the series with Florida and hanged with uga a very close loss(by i think 1 goal )
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:24 pm

VA tech lost to UGA and Florida State this year in the reg season and to Florida in the conference playoffs.


The UGA and FSU games did not count toward conference standings (they were undefeated in conference standings), they picked up FSU and UGA to strengthen their schedule.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:41 pm

univduke21 wrote:All hope is lost for this league if the SELC gets two let alone three teams in the tournamnet this year.


Assuming no conference playoff upsets..


In my eyes...here is the top of the bubble;

#13 Utah (1-2 since last poll, win was over B team, lost to B team, lost to #1, lost 5 of last 6, 1 reg season game, playoffs await)
#15 CPSLO (0-2 since last poll, lost to unranked, lost to #7, playoffs done)
#18 Florida (3-1 since last poll, beat #11, beat unranked, beat #19, lost to #17, playoffs done)

BC/NE playoff loser (#21 BC is 2-0 since last poll, beat #9, beat unranked, lots of reg season/playoffs left, #9 NE is 4-1 since last poll, wins over unranked, lost to #21)

2 of those 4 get in

Michigan state could be thrown in depending on how they look in the CCLA playoffs, but i would put them slightly behind those teams because of their head to head loss to Florida

Who would you put in?
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Postby scooter on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:44 pm

I actually like BC and NE more than anyone else on that list
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:46 pm

assuming one of them will get an AQ, pick 1 of the other 3
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Postby scooter on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:50 pm

I actually like the loser of the BC/NU game more than the other team.

In my opinion, Utah is done as is Florida.....CPSLO needs to do well in the conference tourny to get in.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:53 pm

Hello...

i was assuming you put in 2 (1 AQ, 1 AL) from the PCLL

and cal poly is done from their conference tourney...

pick 1 from the other 3
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Postby univduke21 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:05 pm

9 Conferences
8 Conferences that have an Automatic Bid
16 teams in the tournament
8 At-Large Bids

At-Large Locks:

Colorado State-RMLC #2, MCLA #2
BYU- #1
Colorado- RMLC #3, MCLA #6
Arizona State- MCLA #4
Sonoma State- MCLA #7
UCSB- MCLA #10

At-Large Bubble:
Arizona
Cal Poly
Northeastern
Minnesota Duluth

Bubble Burst:
Florida State-two quick losses and no SOS hurts Seminoles chances to make it back to Dallas
Florida- Needed to win out
VA Tech- needed to win out
Utah- Two wins in conference tournament even without Conference AB would make tournament

So realistically you are looking at two teams from the "bubble" to make the tournament, assuming that there are NO more upsets in the conference tournaments:

Last two in: Arizona, Minnesota Duluth
Last two out: Northeastern (unless AB), Cal Poly
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Postby More Cowbell on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:40 pm

univduke21 wrote:9 Conferences
8 Conferences that have an Automatic Bid
16 teams in the tournament
8 At-Large Bids

At-Large Locks:

Colorado State-RMLC #2, MCLA #2
BYU- #1
Colorado- RMLC #3, MCLA #6
Arizona State- MCLA #4
Sonoma State- MCLA #7
UCSB- MCLA #10

At-Large Bubble:
Arizona
Cal Poly
Northeastern
Minnesota Duluth

Bubble Burst:
Florida State-two quick losses and no SOS hurts Seminoles chances to make it back to Dallas
Florida- Needed to win out
VA Tech- needed to win out
Utah- Two wins in conference tournament even without Conference AB would make tournament

So realistically you are looking at two teams from the "bubble" to make the tournament, assuming that there are NO more upsets in the conference tournaments:

Last two in: Arizona, Minnesota Duluth
Last two out: Northeastern (unless AB), Cal Poly


Who do you have winning the WCLL AB? You have the top 4 ranked WCLL teams as bubble teams. Also, who do you have with the UMLL AB? UMD has to be the favorite, so at this point I wouldn't include them on the bubble.

So this is how I look at it:

Auto Bids (Assuming highest ranked teams win):
WCLL: Sonoma
CCLA: Michigan
GRLC: Lindenwood
LSA: Texas A&M
PNCLL: Oregon
SELC: UGA
UMLL: UMD
PCLL: NU/BC (BC is higher seed, NU is higher ranked)

At Large Locks
1) BYU
2)CSU
3) Colorado
4) UCSB
5)Arizona
6) ASU

Bubble:
1) Florida
2) VTech
3)NU/BC loser
4)Cal Poly
5) Utah
6)FSU

I dont think I missed any other obvious bubble teams...so out of these 6, which 2 would you have in? Personally I would have trouble putting in Utah and Cal Poly after they both suffered bad losses at the end of the season (Westminster, USC, respectively) and I have trouble putting in FSU after an early playoff exit.

Now of course I'm a little biased, but I would have to put in Florida and the BC/NU loser (assuming they meet in the playoffs and have another close game).
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Postby univduke21 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:52 pm

I have Minnesota Duluth and Northeastern in there because I think that they have a chance without having to win the AB. With that being said, if Minnesota-Duluth does win their tournament then it does open up a spot, but if a team like Texas A&M loses it again takes a spot away.
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Postby JerzWB on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:01 pm

More Cowbell wrote:Bubble:
1) Florida
2) VTech
3)NU/BC loser
4)Cal Poly
5) Utah
6)FSU


More Cowbell, you pretty much got it. I think:
Cal Poly; OUT, only win vs #14 Lindenwood, 2 loses to teams outside top 25.

V Tech: OUT, (Wins #23 G.T, #18 UF, Loses #11 FSU, #17 Georgia, #7 Sonoma, #18 Florida)

If NE loses: OUT (Only Win: #12 U of A, Loses #21 BC, #21BC)

It will come down to Florida, FSU, BC (if they lose), and Utah for the final two spots.
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Postby Danny Hogan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:15 pm

univduke21 wrote:9 Conferences
8 Conferences that have an Automatic Bid
16 teams in the tournament
8 At-Large Bids

At-Large Locks:

Colorado State-RMLC #2, MCLA #2
BYU- #1
Colorado- RMLC #3, MCLA #6
Arizona State- MCLA #4
Sonoma State- MCLA #7
UCSB- MCLA #10

At-Large Bubble:
Arizona
Cal Poly
Northeastern
Minnesota Duluth

Bubble Burst:
Florida State-two quick losses and no SOS hurts Seminoles chances to make it back to Dallas
Florida- Needed to win out
VA Tech- needed to win out
Utah- Two wins in conference tournament even without Conference AB would make tournament

So realistically you are looking at two teams from the "bubble" to make the tournament, assuming that there are NO more upsets in the conference tournaments:

Last two in: Arizona, Minnesota Duluth
Last two out: Northeastern (unless AB), Cal Poly


i don't get it, are you predicting conference playoff/championship upsets?

your theory has Cal winning the WCLL, someone other than Duluth (undefeated in conference) winning the UMLL
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Postby CP18 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:26 pm

Does Texas A&M earn an at large berth if they do not win the conference championship this weekend? Or does it depend on who they lose to, or what round it is (semis or finals) in if that does happen?

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North Texas vs. Texas A&M
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